Hey Pescado!

[gynarchy]

The only part of Macrotastics that isn't working for me is the College Rampage. Nothing at all happens when it's selected - no icon in the queue, no error message, nada.

[MokeyHokey]

Macrotastics doesn't work in NL? It has a lot of functions, which ones don't work? Or have you not tried?

So far, all I've found is College-Rampage that doesn't work.

Bah, gynarchy beat me. 

[Hairfish]

Ok, but if I put a rug under it, and a chair next to it, and a window behind it with some curtains on it, and sit granny in the chair to read her favorite romance novel, she should be okay right?

Granny will be just fine....just slightly singed to a fine crisp. 

My first encounter with the flame jet thingie...



She survived. She's a tough ol' broad. I have no idea what they're both looking at. Perhaps JMP is standing just off-screen, applauding.

[DuckSpeak]

That looks fun. 

[RainbowTigress]

SimPE doesn't even work with Nightlife yet.

TwoJeffs is already updating his hacks for Nightlife.  I don't know how he's doing it, but he already has his NPC zapper updated to zap Mrs. Crumplebottom on downtown lots!  And his college adjuster now will turn your sim into a vampire or cure him of vapirism.

And it takes that long to ship because first, it has to arrive at an agent. Then it must be passed by blind drop to another agent, and then it has to be possibly loaded onto a ship. Finally, it must undergo another series of blind drops until it finds its way onto my next supply convoy. Which is in 6-8 weeks.

This makes no sense.  It all sounds rather, er, "fishy" to me.   How are we going to wait two months for our hacks to be fixed?  Two months of phones ringing endlessly and sims falling in love and getting slapped left and right, to mention a few things.

I haven't gotten Nightlife yet.  I can't decide whether I want to see all the new stuff or wait until I know all JMs hacks are going to work properly so I don't tear my hair out in frustration.

[aqualectrix]

Do you all have absolutely no memories of the updating spree that went on when Uni came out?  The same "Oh no!  My precious hacks!  Not having the phone hack is driving me insane!"  The same six-to-eight week wait for J.M. to get the game.  The same "Get J.M. the game faster!" offers of money, and the same explanations from J.M. as to why this is totally useless.

Seriously, did you not expect this to happen again?  We cross our fingers and hope he'll work from code diffs.

[neriana]

I didn't get University until my necessary hacks were updated. No way am I playing Nightlife without them either. I can wait. 

[nectere]

hmmm...If I were a modder with a large audience I would claim 6-8 weeks also. I would use this time to play the game a bit, figure out first and foremost what I wanted to mod, then update any mods that actually needed it, have my personal confidants test them out before unleashing them on the public giving me plenty of time to work in peace without a barrage of can you fix this first, oh and can you fix this unrelated issue and this and this and this and this...yeppers, about 6-8 weeks cushion, and perhaps I might be done a little sooner but this would make people happy rather than annoyed. If it were me that is...but it isn't, so what do I know.

[Motoki]

Yeah, I rather suspect he's full of shit, but it's his schtick and keeps up his rather odd loner people hating, paranoid persona.

Annoying as hell for us that have to put up with the damned phone ringing and temper tantrums and what's this etc etc though. Makes one wonder, did the people at Maxis PLAY this game? Because there's a lot of feature that universally irritate the hell out of people. I've yet to hear of one person who likes how the phone works or that the sims all run to say what's this when you buy a friggin lightbulb. At least they finally got a clue and got rid of that obnoxious child A+ cheering.

[VJay]

Macrotastics doesn't work in NL? It has a lot of functions, which ones don't work? Or have you not tried?

ah! I have to admit I hadn't tried because I was afraid to experience some strange changes due to incompatibility, but, when I read your post I had to give it a try and it works well! Autosoc is excellent out on dates and outings. 

[speedreader]

I didn't get University until my necessary hacks were updated. No way am I playing Nightlife without them either. I can wait. 

I'm with you - no NL until my favorite hacks are working.  In the meantime I am having a great time 'listening' to all of you complain about incessant phones ringing, etc.  For once I am not a part of the clammor. 

[Motoki]

Oh it ain't just the phone, though the phone is probably the biggest pain in the ass. We also have the pleasure of them all stopping everything they are doing and going up or down 2 stories to check out a god damned lightbulb that you just added to say "What's this?"  they do it on community lots now too. And worse yet, because the community lots never save, they'll do it ever time they enter that lot. :p For some reason the tables with tablecloths on some lots make them all go "What's this?"

The temper tantrums are back without lesswhiny and annoying as hell. I'm always screaming STFU!! at them. Buying clothes takes forever again because they have to browse for an hour first. Running anywhere is fairly useless now since you can't queue it up without manual navigation. I keep forgetting that and it is a constant source of irritation for me. :p If I really want them to run, I have to sit there and wait for them to get there before I can queue up their next action. :p

[jrd]

Twojeffs has access to the internal betas of SimPe, which do work with Nightlife. Plebes may also get 0.50 one day.

[Inge]

I've made a thing to stop them yelling and waving their arms when they've got low motives.  It does it a different way from the LessWhiny, but it seems fairly effective.  You have to take over responsibility for noticing when they are starving and stuff though.

Find it on my patches page.  I couldn't stand any longer without the lesswhiny either

[sanmonroe]

Yeah, I rather suspect he's full of shit, but it's his schtick and keeps up his rather odd loner people hating, paranoid persona.

Annoying as hell for us that have to put up with the damned phone ringing and temper tantrums and what's this etc etc though. Makes one wonder, did the people at Maxis PLAY this game? Because there's a lot of feature that universally irritate the hell out of people. I've yet to hear of one person who likes how the phone works or that the sims all run to say what's this when you buy a friggin lightbulb. At least they finally got a clue and got rid of that obnoxious child A+ cheering.

Well the way he described the delivery process, it kind of screams "Us armed forces in the mid east" to me.

So if he is a tech/support stationed in Afghan/Turkey/Iraq etc, he may need to wait 2 months.

[Inge]

Lol!

[J. M. Pescado]

Do you all have absolutely no memories of the updating spree that went on when Uni came out?  The same "Oh no!  My precious hacks!  Not having the phone hack is driving me insane!"  The same six-to-eight week wait for J.M. to get the game.  The same "Get J.M. the game faster!" offers of money, and the same explanations from J.M. as to why this is totally useless.

Seriously, did you not expect this to happen again?  We cross our fingers and hope he'll work from code diffs.

No, they lost their memories from the Greek house bug, remember?

hmmm...If I were a modder with a large audience I would claim 6-8 weeks also. I would use this time to play the game a bit, figure out first and foremost what I wanted to mod, then update any mods that actually needed it, have my personal confidants test them out before unleashing them on the public giving me plenty of time to work in peace without a barrage of can you fix this first, oh and can you fix this unrelated issue and this and this and this and this...yeppers, about 6-8 weeks cushion, and perhaps I might be done a little sooner but this would make people happy rather than annoyed. If it were me that is...but it isn't, so what do I know.

Actually, that's 6-8 weeks until I get the game. It will probably take longer before everything is updated, although the really "can't live without" stuff, well, if you think you can't live without it, let's just say we don't make this shit just for your sake.

Yeah, I rather suspect he's full of shit, but it's his schtick and keeps up his rather odd loner people hating, paranoid persona.

You've obviously never been to Montana. Really, this is quite normal out here.

Well the way he described the delivery process, it kind of screams "Us armed forces in the mid east" to me.

So if he is a tech/support stationed in Afghan/Turkey/Iraq etc, he may need to wait 2 months.

Given that my procurement contacts are overseas, yes, that is sort of how it works. In fact, it will take slightly longer because of security procedures.

However, there is good news. Boris has the game now, and I'll have the package shortly. Unfortunately, SimPE still doesn't actually work with Nightlife yet at last check.

Lol!

I would like to take this opportunity to remind you that you suck and that I hate you.

[sara_dippity]

I didn't get University until my necessary hacks were updated. No way am I playing Nightlife without them either. I can wait. 

I'm with you - no NL until my favorite hacks are working.  In the meantime I am having a great time 'listening' to all of you complain about incessant phones ringing, etc.  For once I am not a part of the clammor. 

I'm not complaining. Actually, since the A+ cheer is fixed and cell phones are turned off when sims are asleep, I'm finding that the return to the game in it's original form is kind of refreshing. I think I'm only going to get bug fix hacks from now on, and the clothing tool so I can use the toddler hats. With the phone hack I'm going to make them stop talking once their social is full and be really upset that I'm missing out on the keep in touch calls. They are a penalty for letting the lifetime relationship drop below 50, and the game without penalties isn't a game. I've never had the less whiney stuff or similar hacks for the same reason.

[J. M. Pescado]

I'm sure the novelty of that will wear off shortly and you'll become duly irritated with the repetitive clicking and wrist strain it will produce to keep redialing.

[Andygal]

However, there is good news. Boris has the game now, and I'll have the package shortly. Unfortunately, SimPE still doesn't actually work with Nightlife yet at last check.

Actually there is a NL compatiable version up now. It works for me to fixing the bug with teens I moved in with boolprop not aging properly (their "days remaining" gets set to 100 for some odd reason, I don't have any problems with kids I moved in with boolprop or adults just teens for some odd reason can't figure THAT one out).

[sara_dippity]

I'm sure the novelty of that will wear off shortly and you'll become duly irritated with the repetitive clicking and wrist strain it will produce to keep redialing.

Or I'll just invite people I want to be friends with to an outing. A good one energizes my sim and I come back at the same time at home. In a better mood to skill and with a friend to boot.

[knitro]

I just moved from Montana, and its not that bad, I could even buy the games on the day they came out. hmmm? Where in MT do you live? Two Dot?

[aussieone]

I'm sure the novelty of that will wear off shortly and you'll become duly irritated with the repetitive clicking and wrist strain it will produce to keep redialing.

I for one, am becoming irritated already!! 

[Motoki]

With the phone hack I'm going to make them stop talking once their social is full and be really upset that I'm missing out on the keep in touch calls. They are a penalty for letting the lifetime relationship drop below 50, and the game without penalties isn't a game. I've never had the less whiney stuff or similar hacks for the same reason.

While I do see your point, I still think certain aspects of the game could be handled better. I don't mind the message that pops up saying you lost a friend, but I absolutely cannot abide by those damned sims calling you up every two seconds and dragging some random sim away from one part of the house to the phone just to tell them I haven't been calling their asses and then to add insult to injury, hanging up without any relationship gain.

There's lots of other 'features' that need fixing too. I had a neat vampire sim haul her ass up 3 stories during daylight while rapidly decreasing motives to make a bed and I couldn't cancel it because I don't have the hack anymore. :p

[J. M. Pescado]

I just moved from Montana, and its not that bad, I could even buy the games on the day they came out. hmmm? Where in MT do you live? Two Dot?

Well, sure, I could just drive 50 miles to the nearest store that might probably sell them. Which would run me for about 80 gallons of fuel, which is more than the game is worth and violate all security protocols, since then the EA tracking number would be directly linked to my point of purchase. Or I can wait patiently for it to arrive with the next supply convoy. Which sounds smarter to you?

There's lots of other 'features' that need fixing too. I had a neat vampire sim haul her ass up 3 stories during daylight while rapidly decreasing motives to make a bed and I couldn't cancel it because I don't have the hack anymore. :p

I have every reason to believe that hack would work unmodified. Boris is compiling a list right now, since he has the game. I'll have an objects.package to look at in about 189 Microsoft hours now.