Hello! Me not dead!

[fwiffo]

I've got a little bit of a problem that I don't know how to solve without damaging my neighborhood...

In one of my houses in pleasantview, I fed Goopy to the cow plant.  Then I turned him into a zombie, then I drowned him, then I ressurrected him with about 5k to invert his personality and make a "nice" zombie.  Everything seemed fine.  Then I moved him out.  This was a little while ago.  The next time I played the house, I noticed there were several tombstones and urns near the cowplant.  I had assumed I had left the cowplant door unlocked, but no, it's locked.  There's no way to get to it.  Then I noticed that all but one of the urns/tombstones weren't assigned to anyone.  The tooltip just "urn/tombstone" not "Joe" or anything.  The one is assigned to a person who is very much alive.

If I go to the lot where that person lives, she's at work, but everyone in the family wants to ressurect her.  But she comes home from work just fine - but she's afraid of becoming a zombie.  She shows up as gray in everyone's family tree, but nobody has a memory of her dying.  In SimPE she does have an "I am dead" token, but she's walking around just fine in spite of it all.

I'd like to repair things, but I'm not sure how to do it without causing even bigger trouble.  I only have 357 or so character files, so I don't think I'm even approaching fireball status yet.  I'd like to keep this sim alive - at least for the next six days or so when she's going to kick off from old age.  I'd like to also delete those bogus tombstones without deleting her charcter data.

[J. M. Pescado]

Remove the "I am dead" token, and get "nounlinkondelete". Then you can delete any tombstones you please, and nobody's character data will ever be shredded from tombstone deletion.

[fwiffo]

I see that hack in the NL directory, but not the UNI directory.  I do not have nightlife - is that hack uni-only compatable?

[J. M. Pescado]

No. I'll have to splice it to make it backportable, given that a lot changed with tombstones in NL.

[fwiffo]

Is there any way to accomplish the same thing manually?  I presume backing up the character file, then restoring it after the tombstone has been deleted is not sufficient...  Could I ressurect her with the reaper-phone (on the lot with the tombstone), then reset her age to what it should be and move her back to her correct lot?

[J. M. Pescado]

Try this:
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/uni/test/nounlinkondelete.package

This SHOULD be retrofitted to work in all versions, but hasn't been tested yet. Give it a try, lemme know if it works.

And yeah, man, you need to upgrade your game engine, if nothing else.

[fwiffo]

That seemed to have the desired effect - her character data did not get toasted.  Everything seems to be mostly OK now except two things; she still shows up as gray in the family tree, and she still is afraid of being a zombie.  But nobody wants to ressurrect her anymore, and I was able to delete the tombstone safely.

I probably should upgrade, you're right, but I have such a hard time justifying it when I only play it once-in-a-while, and hate giving Maxis more money to fix their stupid bugs.

Edit: Oh, and thanks for backporting the hack, I didn't mean to be such a pest/fathead.

[Ancient Sim]

If they have an "I Am Dead" token but the "Is Ghost" box isn't ticked, they're not dead.  That's why Bella always shows as still alive.  They can wander around forever with "I Am Dead" tokens and not be dead.  I suppose they're in some sort of limbo, but they're certainly not dead and they function like any other Sim. 

And why were you so horrid to Goopy?!  Poor Goopy, he's so misunderstood.  How anyone can be so horrible to someone with such amazing fashion sense, I really don't know.

[fwiffo]

1) His name is Goopy.
2) His name is Goopy.
3) I wanted an inverted "nice" zombie, and he happened to be handy.

[fwiffo]

That's weird...  I looked at her again in SimPE, and the "Is Ghost" box is checked, which I hadn't looked for before.  I suppose that's why zombie/ressurection wants and fears are showing up, and why she's gray in the family tree...

[anyeone]

I have a totally unrelated question.

Why is your icon a Yehat when your name is that  of a Spathi?

[Jelenedra]

Neeeeeeeeeeeeerds.....

[J. M. Pescado]

I have a totally unrelated question.

Why is your icon a Yehat when your name is that  of a Spathi?

That question has been asked before, and is answered here.

Neeeeeeeeeeeeerds.....

Says the person with the fanfic avatar.

[anyeone]

Sorry, I don't always read every thread 

I'll just say, great minds think alike.  Or should that be awesome minds think alike?

Not that I would claim to be as awesome as you, but showing similar thought processes does show at least a modicum of awesomeness.

[J. M. Pescado]

Actually, I was thinking about asking him that, but you asking him first brought back a sense of deja vu, so I did some digging and found I had already asked that.

[Jelenedra]

FanART avatar.

[J. M. Pescado]

FanART avatar.

Whatever, soft-porn is still porn.

[fwiffo]

Actually, that might have been the second time J. M. Pescado had asked that (perhaps once at varioussimmers also).  I recall asking him in why he had a burninator for an avatar when he was a fat obstreperous jerk.  On the Nethack IRC channel, I get someone asking me about my handle every 5 seconds.

[verdaeni]

for hard porn i could just watch dogs in the street.  soft porn uses more imagination and is therfore porn squared.