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Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck!
« on: 2006 July 15, 13:15:53 »
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Sims no longer obsessed with restaurant podiums and coffee bars. Queues no longer stomped by seating assignments, enabling your employees and sims to eat unmolested.


OFB: restaurantbarfix.zip

NOTE:
Anyone using Director's Cut "nodiningwithscum" should update when installing this, as some functions have been fixed & integrated into this (and removed from that).

Restaurant/Bar/Coffeebar Fixes for TS2OFB
Made by: Flying Fish Systems (J. M. Pescado & Doctor Boris)

Special Thanks To:
Hobbsee the Scrawny Pencil Neck
Fat, Hairy-Bellied Ness
BlueSoup, Fat Head

Congratulations to: Draklixa!

INSTRUCTIONS:
Place in your MYDOCU~1\EAGAME~1\THESIM~1\DOWNLO~1

FEATURES:
1. Sims no longer obsessed with eating at restaurants in endless loops when not
   full, or drinking coffee when not tired. Also cuts down desire for sims to
   commit bladdericide from the above.
2. Seats occupied by your sims & bar patrons less likely to clash with host
   seating assignments, resulting in queue stompage. Queue stompage BAD!

COMPATIBILITY:
Compatible with all FFS hacks. Tested for TS2OFBp2.

SIDE EFFECTS:
May cause computer damage, incontinence, explosion of user's head, coma, death,
and/or halitosis.

WARNING:
Do not open, crush, dispose of in fire, put in backwards, short-circuit, or mix
with non-awesome hacks - may explode, leak, or catch fire, resulting in injury
and/or death.
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Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck!
« Reply #1 on: 2006 July 15, 14:16:46 »
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Am I correct in thinking this replaces Crammyboy's 'restaurant hunger fix', or should we still use both?
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« Reply #2 on: 2006 July 15, 14:17:33 »
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Am I correct in thinking this replaces Crammyboy's 'restaurant hunger fix', or should we still use both?
Replaces.
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« Reply #3 on: 2006 July 15, 14:19:52 »
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As I thought -- thanks!
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« Reply #4 on: 2006 July 15, 14:42:44 »
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As I thought -- thanks!
Fixed bug with table check, redownload.
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« Reply #5 on: 2006 July 15, 20:37:28 »
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Marvelous, I have to try this right now Smiley

EDIT: After running Paladin hack conflict tool, I ended up with this report:

*** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED ***
File Type: BHAV
Procedure Name: Interaction - Be Seated At Bar TEST
Group ID: 0x7FDFFE55
Instance ID: 0x0000204D
Packages Containing This Procedure:
\downloads\restaurantbarfix.package
\downloads\restaurantbarfix.package

It is like the mod is conflicting with itself, is this normal, should I worry?
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« Reply #6 on: 2006 July 15, 21:05:31 »
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Should be fixed now.
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« Reply #7 on: 2006 July 15, 21:23:14 »
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Thanks.

With the newest version. No conflict appeared.  Off to try it. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: 2006 July 16, 14:42:12 »
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I've only tried this one time but I noticed that when my sim bought coffee for another sim, the other person did not take her coffee, she simply walked away.  Is this a side effect if perhaps she wasn't tired enough?  I was indeed pleased with the lack of a crowd in front of the espresso cart.
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« Reply #9 on: 2006 July 16, 14:59:11 »
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It's possible, but shouldn't have interfered with pushed actions, only autonomous selection. More likely it was conventional route blockage and timeout.
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Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck!
« Reply #10 on: 2006 July 16, 15:54:53 »
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Does this hack also stop waiters from going to get coffee across the lot instead of doing their job?
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« Reply #11 on: 2006 July 17, 02:55:56 »
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Does this hack also stop waiters from going to get coffee across the lot instead of doing their job?
I believe the compulsive desire of waiters to stalk across the lot so they can throw away all of the barista's coffee is covered in the Coffee Cup Hack.
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« Reply #12 on: 2006 July 18, 04:39:38 »
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Does this hack also stop waiters from going to get coffee across the lot instead of doing their job?
I believe the compulsive desire of waiters to stalk across the lot so they can throw away all of the barista's coffee is covered in the Coffee Cup Hack.

It does not apply to the owner on the other hand.  I have been using the coffeecup mod for awhile and when the shop is open the owner will rush to the expresso bar whenever it have a chance too.
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« Reply #13 on: 2006 July 18, 05:14:38 »
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I can't wait to try this out.  I have been going nuts because of the swarm of sims around the coffee bar.  Last night, my sim tried and tried to get coffee until she was about to pass out.  Every time she got close enough to buy coffee, one of the townies would butt in front of her, and they didn't need it!  When she finally got up to the counter, the command timed out, so someone else got in front of her.  She finally got a cup of coffee, which was enough to get her home where she could caffeinate properly.   Angry  I'm hoping this will fix that type of situation.
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« Reply #14 on: 2006 July 27, 09:10:21 »
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I've only tried this one time but I noticed that when my sim bought coffee for another sim, the other person did not take her coffee, she simply walked away.  Is this a side effect if perhaps she wasn't tired enough?  I was indeed pleased with the lack of a crowd in front of the espresso cart.

I had this too twice? Although its worth it to keep the crowds away (even if my new shiny romance coffee sim is looking deathly bored by lack of customers). I still get the points for the "buy coffee for a sim" they just don't collect or drink it.
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« Reply #15 on: 2006 August 11, 08:04:36 »
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I'll try this and see if it works or conflicts with Squinges n-a drinking from bar (?)
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« Reply #16 on: 2006 August 17, 07:32:40 »
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« Reply #17 on: 2006 August 18, 19:16:53 »
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does this affect sims from buying drinks from normal bars?

I started a home business and i bought a bar here is what happens:

if i just make a bunch of drinks and leave it on top of the bar, lots of sims will come to get a glass, however if i assign a sim to be bartender, no one will buy drinks...

and also no one will buy coffe from my expresso bar.. strange
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« Reply #18 on: 2006 August 18, 20:12:50 »
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That's probably because you can't run restaurant/cafe type businesses on a home lot (at least not without hacks).  Home lots can only be sales-oriented, not service oriented.
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« Reply #19 on: 2006 August 18, 20:40:28 »
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oh!!! so i guess that expresso bar in my home catalog was probably included in my game by a downloaded house package...

however the bars ARE supposed to be at the home catalog, so why is there a option to be bartender in homebusiness?
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« Reply #20 on: 2006 August 18, 21:35:54 »
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They were originally for home entertainment -- they've been there since before OFB (I believe Uni added them). Someone in the house/dorm could be the bartender to ensure that all the party guests had 'juice' to drink. OFB didn't change their function on home lots.

Oh, and you can also hire a bartender by phone; the bar just won't autogenerate one like it does on a community lot. Still won't let you charge for it, though. 
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« Reply #21 on: 2006 August 20, 06:52:38 »
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That's probably because you can't run restaurant/cafe type businesses on a home lot (at least not without hacks).  Home lots can only be sales-oriented, not service oriented.
Actually you can, and it doesn't need hacks, but depending on the item you want, you may have to be creative to get them on the lot.
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« Reply #22 on: 2006 August 22, 22:55:06 »
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It seems that the restaurantbarfix dated 15 july 2006 from the NL version of moreawesomethanyou.zip makes a community lot of mine crash to desktop, repeatedly. I'm running Nightlife + NL Patch 2. It is only the restaurantbarfix that's the problem - with it removed and all other custom content & hacks intact, the lot is playable. And yes - the lot is a restaurant.
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Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck!
« Reply #23 on: 2006 August 22, 23:24:06 »
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Lemme check why that happens. I bet it's that random "completely senseless and totally inconsistent robot-related crash bug" again. It is somewhat of a mystery why this happens sometimes and not others, or why the game crashes on code that it never actually runs. Try the new NL-only version just uploaded.
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« Reply #24 on: 2006 August 24, 01:02:12 »
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I just tried the latest Restaurant Fix for NL and it crashes me to the desktop just like last version. Checked it in a vanilla game and it still does it.
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