Hurricane Katrina

[Kitiara]

sorry, all the way through this topic, I keep remembering the old feminist bumper sticker, 'they sent one man to the moon, why not send them all?'.

 

My ex-girlfriend would love that bumper sticker. She asks me all the time why I married my husband.

[laeshanin]

Not all men are wasters... just some of the motherf**king bastards! 

[Judecat]

As far as men -- well it's just two bad they have 2 heads and only enough blood to supply one of them. 

[laeshanin]

Judecat, no, stop! It would be bad to turn this into a thread full of sex-starved, boot-wearing, shaven-headed, ultra-feminist loons with penis envy... We must be caring of the poor little darlings that are so misunderstood. Unfortunately, mysogyny (did I spell that right?) is alive and well in the 21st century, and I could barely get my hat on (local saying) when I read about so-called rescuers' (original thread) in NO who would not take some young women into their boat because the women wouldn't show their tits. My, doncha just wish you could get a big knife handy?

[Judecat]

I'm not sex starved or shave headed.    Just very aware that the men in my life need looking after.       
When I first met him,  after an hour I finally had to ask him what color are my eyes to get him to look above neck level -- and he's one of the good ones

Edited cos I can't type

[witch]

When I first met him,  after an hour I finally had to ask him what color are my eyes to get him to look above eye level

I used to sometimes say, 'they won't talk back to you, you know'...

[Judecat]

Or when they ask what's your name I tell them -- the right one is Jude and the left on is ith.

[J. M. Pescado]

When I first met him,  after an hour I finally had to ask him what color are my eyes to get him to look above eye level

I used to sometimes say, 'they won't talk back to you, you know'...

I dunno, I would think this would be a tactical advantage. An enemy that isn't watching your eyes will not be able to notice when you are about to strike. Always watch the eyes, the eyes tell you when they will strike. It's important to catch that subtle tightening that occurs just before the attack.

Of course, then they complain that I'm boring into their skull like that, because obviously they know I'm watching them. Oh, yes. Their feeble tricks will not work on me.

[Danni]

What are you doing JM with men looking down at you in that way?

[witch]

Of course, then they complain that I'm boring into their skull like that, because obviously they know I'm watching them. Oh, yes. Their feeble tricks will not work on me.

  

It is disconcerting to say the least, when men talk to your breasts. I always have the slightly edgy feeling I've spilled sauce down my front or something. I keep glancing down, to see what has them so mesmerised.

The thing that just kills me now, is that men talking to my breasts don't know I have prostheses. I have an almost hysterical desire to slip them out, hand them to the man and say, 'here, have a play if you like'. I think I would die laughing. Can't you just picture it?

[Danni]

I dare you to do it... and then post their reaction

I have almost non existant breasts at the moment (bah, a year ago they were 40 E, now they're 36 A... I stopped breastfeeding ) but most men look in that general area because they don't like looking up at me, being as short as they are Luckily my adoring partner likes me just as I am

[J. M. Pescado]

What are you doing JM with men looking down at you in that way?

I don't. Women, however, complain that I am glaring at them, and tend to wish I'd go back to looking at their breasts like normal men. Some people clearly don't know what they really want.

Not unsurprisingly, I'm very much a face person. I pay very little attention to breasts. I notice faces, from the dumb look you always have, to that look of realization as you realize the internal organ I am showing you is yours.

[Danni]

Sounds good to me If I'm wearing my heels you don't mind looking up at me then?

[J. M. Pescado]

Sounds good to me If I'm wearing my heels you don't mind looking up at me then?

Well, it's either that, or I'll develop a fixation on looking at your spleen. I'm sure you'd find that disturbing, too. It bothers people even more when I do this, perhaps because they realize subconciously that the point at which my eyes are focussed on happens to be INSIDE them.

And you know, there's nothing more priceless than the look on someone's face as you show them their spleen, and they realize, "Oh my God, that's MINE!"

[Danni]

My spleen is enlarged... I've had plenty of doctors look at me already, which means I wouldn't be bothered at all

[witch]

Not unsurprisingly, I'm very much a face person. I pay very little attention to breasts. I notice faces, from the dumb look you always have, to that look of realization as you realize the internal organ I am showing you is yours.

Your social events must be kind of messy. 

[Bane~Child]

I am not Mormon, but I do have something to say in their favor.  They are very family oriented and whenever the head of household is unable to work, their family is cared for.  They are completely supported by their Ward, until they can get back on their feet again - but during the other times they are expected to tithe a specific portion of their income.  They encourage large families, but they also help send those children to college when the time comes.  The other thing that I can't help but admire and at the same time find a bit disturbing, is their lifelong commitment to learn, practice, plan and survive a World-wide devastation of Biblical proportions.  I am serious, they hold classes on survival through preparation technique and stockpiling of reserves.  Did you know that you can survive on grass clippings put through the blender with water?  Since they are also largely to thank for the mass volumes of Genealogy data to which we have access for researching our family trees throughout the world, I have little to complain about in their beliefs.

Greg,

In college I was accused of being just a tiny bit in favor of Socialism whenever I wrote a paper - but I had a notorious family name, so I could not escape the obvious bias.  I have always liked this approach, though you do need an administrator you can trust and who will be equitable and above corruption.  Herein lies the real problem and the reason this plan would struggle as a viable option.  However, as an example I will use my husband's grandfather - the most honorable man I have ever known.

Just before the Great Depression hit here in the US, Grandpa achieved his goal of becoming a Fire Fighter.  It wasn't the life dream of a little boy, just a practical approach to the times.  He had worked hard towards this goal both for himself and his younger brothers, who would follow his example.  He was very patient and as soon as the City announced openings, he applied, took the examine and passed the physical requirements.  He was a newlywed and though children were not yet in the picture, they soon would be and before the Depression ended.

His two brothers by this time, both had families of their own, but were not yet on the Fire Department as was planned.  Naturally, the FD like everyone else had to put a freeze on new hires - at least current jobs were not cut, for which so many had suffered this loss.  The two brothers worked at whatever and as many jobs as they could get, but it was still not enough to support them and their families.  After much consideration of logistics, Grandpa came up with a plan and called a family meeting with his two brothers.  Since he had a secure job with benefits he proposed that they should all pool their earnings and support their families as a unit.  They did not all live together, but there would be no squabbling about 'mine' and 'theirs' - it was now 'ours' - and though no one would go without basic needs, they all understood that necessities now had a new meaning.  Since Grandpa was the eldest and had the most 'money sense', he agreed to handle all their finances.  He paid all their bills, put food on the table, bought the clothes they needed and paid the doctor for services when they were ill.  

I am happy to report that they all made it through the Depression with self-esteem intact and renewed enthusiasm for their future.  As soon as the FD was hiring again, Grandpa's brothers were able to apply and both were hired.  Even though this is a small-scale example, this idea, in my belief, does work.

[Bane~Child]

I guess I have a male brain...glasses...

Yeh, but look whose eyes are behind those glasses!  Danni, you don't have a male brain, you just think like a man should think if they could and it drives them crazy.  That doesn't make you a freak, it makes you powerful.

[Danni]

If you want to see that pic, go to http://blackboard.gateshead.ac.uk... I'm the one in lilac...

[Judecat]

One of my favoirite places to be a hobo was Salt Lake City.   If you were down and out you showed up at a certain wearhouse,  and you got put to work at whatever kind of work you could do -- and 8 hours later they gave you voucher to pay for whatever you needed at the time,  food,  shoes,  a coat.  If you were down and out with a family they even gave you a decent place to stay.  Not like social services where you have to jump through hoops to get free money -- they figure you wouldn't show up if you could do better,  and didn't strip you of all pride to get help.   Was run through the temple and not the government.

[neriana]

My current favourite is "So many men... So many reasons to sleep alone."

No no no no no. That's the only thing they're good for!

Joking, of course.

They're also good for opening pickle jars. 

(I really hope my boyfriend never sees this...)

[J. M. Pescado]

My spleen is enlarged... I've had plenty of doctors look at me already, which means I wouldn't be bothered at all

Yes, but have you ever seen your own spleen, as an external, instead of an internal, organ?

[witch]

If you want to see that pic, go to http://blackboard.gateshead.ac.uk... I'm the one in lilac...

Lovely in lilac
We use bloody Blackboard here at tech. Wish they'd get Moodle, Blackboard is a pig of a thing.

[Diala]

At the defense of booby-staring men, sometimes the woman kind of "deserves" it with the type of shirt she is wearing. Take the girl in Judecat's avatar, for instance. In my opinion, she is showing a lot of clevage, and I assume that is a thin top. She'd attract a lot of attention from both men AND women. However, if the woman is wearing regular clothing, like a shirt or sweater, then I think it is the man's fault.

Personally, most of the men I know don't stare at my chest. It is sort of a stereotype that I haven't really experienced. Believe me, a lot of my friends tend to be male.

[Judecat]

I don't think because a woman has a low cut summer top that she is asking to be staired at.   I do ren faire re-enacting,  and some of those dresses have very little coverage.  Got so tired of the guys stairing that I payed to have the all my undershifts modified so that I have cotton and small ruffles 4 or 5 inches above the neckline of the dresses.   

Just as I don't think that girls who wear mini skirts are looking to be attached,  molested or raped.

Anyway -- when I met hubby I was pumping gas in a full service  gas station,  wearing jeans,  tee shirt,  and jump suite (the regular guy model -- not the female one).  It's not my fault I didn't look like a guy.  Geeze even had my hair died red with purple spikes -- that should have been more interesting to look at than grey covered boobies