Business Owner are unemployed?

[IcemanTO]

Not sure this was discussed before.
Anyway, a Sim owner of a community shop, appears in my game as always unemployed if it has not a "regular" job.

Is this a big idiot (another) Maxis Bug, or it's possible to solve?

Ice

[Vren Lyet]

I hope I've understood correctly: you wonder why your Sim isn't declared a "shop owner" in his job performance panel, right?

Well, as a matter of fact this Sim IS unemployed as he/she is the OWNER and therefore the EMPLOYER = the one doing the employing.

This is not a bug.

If it's bothering you... ...it's no problem for your Sim to have a regular job (any career track) AND be the owner of a dozen community shops.

[jsalemi]

Yea, I've been buying my Celebrity Chefs restaurants -- finally something for them to REALLY do, and the money they make as a CC is more than enough to tide them over as they build up the business.

[cwykes]

One of my highly skilled shop owners was hired as a manager by another of my favourite sims to get her business up to level 10.  Then she sold it to a townie and my owner quit her job.  I think of it as consultancy!  I'm planning to have her hire her former employer sometime!

[Regina]

I don't see a problem with them being considered unemployed as they're available to their friends without conflicting job schedules.  And if you have a phone in their shop, which is a handy thing, especially if you want to hire employees, their friends call them frequently while they're at work (that is, unless you use the phone hack to turn off the ringer).

[Ruann]

Everyone else has pretty much explained it.  Sims can hold a standard job, or work for another Sim-Business Owner and still run their own shops.  Considering most shops start out losing money, you almost need the free money from the stupidly easy standard jobs to keep yourself going in the meantime. 

Besides, if you were given the "Shop Owner" job upon getting your first Business, how are you going to run multiples?  It's not like the game is built to let you have more than one job at a time, after all.

[Karen]

I suppose if it bothers you, you could always create a custom career called "Self-Employed" with no work hours, and assign your business owner to that career.  Then at least it would say something other than "Unemployed".

Karen

[pearlbh]

I suppose if it bothers you, you could always create a custom career called "Self-Employed" with no work hours, and assign your business owner to that career.  Then at least it would say something other than "Unemployed".

I've done that, actually.  I made the career long before OFB for work at home Sims (selling paintings, writing novels, etc.)  But now some people were discussing this on N99 so I posted it on the POBS board.  Details here:

http://p218.ezboard.com/fstarlightsimsfrm77.showMessage?topicID=207.topic

[JadeEliott]

You have to be a member of N99 to get that career, but membership is free.

N99 is a great place.

Pearl did a simple but very needed thing. (Thanks!) :-)

[porkypine]

Being 'unemployed' whle owning a business doesn't bother me. What bugs me though, is when my sims call someone who does have a job somewhere and a person at the house, usually the wife, rudely answers the phone with something like. "No. He's at work, working, unlike someone who's calling."  Implying that my sim is a bum because they aren't employed by someone.

[Entgleichen]

I agree, this is a phrase I hate, too. Furthermore, it isn't true all the time. Is it my sim's fault that work times differ? Maybe I'll look for it in the text files and change it, some time.

[Venusy]

Being 'unemployed' whle owning a business doesn't bother me. What bugs me though, is when my sims call someone who does have a job somewhere and a person at the house, usually the wife, rudely answers the phone with something like. "No. He's at work, working, unlike someone who's calling."  Implying that my sim is a bum because they aren't employed by someone.

Didn't Pescado fix this in the OFB update to the Phone Hack?

[Lady_Z]

I have a different problem and I caused it myself, but don't know how to fix it.

I have twin sisters, one of whom owns a Lamp Shop.  I got a hack to allow the hiring of relatives...and had one sister hire the other...however..oops...I accidentally had the wrong twin hire the one who owned the business.  Well to compound the problem, I then had the real owner hire the other twin. 
Now they are both employees of the Lamp Shop and after working in it as playable Sims together for 4 Simdays...they must go home, where the car pool picks them up and they go to their own store from 9 to 5 to work.  They make $350 a day each but this wasn't my plan. 
I planned on their spare time being used to pick up guys, party and you know...what pretty twin sisters do....

I wonder...if I disable the hack...will it go back to one twin owning and one just hanging out?