CONFESS! How many of you pay for downloads?

[ZephyrZodiac]

I have nearly all her stuff and I use it a lot - same goes for Sim Gedoehns. 

At least every time there's an new donation set at 4ESF2. there's a free set as well!  And some of the free sets I like even more than the donation ones!

However, there's one free site that I'd gladly donate to, simply because the quality of the stuff there is so brilliant (at least, in my opinion) just to show my appreciation, and that's Sims2Play - and Shoukier now nearly always includes recolours. 

[BlueSoup]

Now that Shoukier is at TSR, I've been catching some of her stuff there too.

[ZephyrZodiac]

Well, I don't have a sub there any more so I tend not to go looking!  Has she got much there?

It's really annoyed me how, in the past, when other site owners have ended up there, it's ended up swallowing them whole!  Also really annoyed me when all the Sims 1  Secret sims stuff was being put up there - at the time it was nearly all stuff I already had and had in many cases donated for - and for ages there was nothing for me to download because I already had it!

[Bangelnuts]

I would love it if 4ESF got a subscription policy, rather than a set-donation.  It'd be much cheaper, and I'd definitely sub for that.  She updates all the time.

I would sub to 4ESF as well if she ever gets a subscription policy as it is I limit downloads from there because the cost really adds up quickly when its per set

[Jysudo]

I propose a share policy once discreetly and some people thought I am asking them to rob a bank. I am no bank robber. I just cannot afford to spend so much on subs. I am so skinny I cannot reduce my soda intakes anymore and I don't wanna go topless

But its ok. I *ahem* have got what I want for the time being so I am *ahem* satisfied for the time being again. 
Carol's stuff are good and I have been so tempted for the donation sets before but I really cannot afford the 3.50 donation sets. so its a no go. I use almost all her stuff one way or another in my homes.

But I am curious: Does any of you ever pay for her donation sets before? Are they that good. I got my keen eye on a bathroom and bedroom set. I am a sucker for bathroom and bedroom decos.

ETA: Sunair is at TSR but she still updates her free site as and when.
Actually, is sunair one person or one group. I can't imagine how one gal can update so much and still have a RL.

[BlueSoup]

Yes, I have paid for a few of the 4ESF sets - Bedroom 8, Bathrooms 3 & 5, and Kitchen 5.  All totally worth it.  I use them all a lot (especially the kitchen fridge).  I really like them.  And I tend to agree, I use a lot of Holy Simoly (couches and lamps) and 4ESF in my Sims houses.  I have found so many recolours of the Arizona couch mesh that I can make any room with those couches look totally different.

Sunair, I think, is one woman.  But I can't be totally sure.  And perhaps she doesn't have a real life.  I don't have much of one.    Also, I've noticed a lot of creators don't really play the games either, they just keep churning out those awesome creations for me to download. 

[Jysudo]

Sunair churns out more than 800 items after 3 months of being FA. I wonder how can one gal do that. Unless she doesn't study or have a job but she doesn't operate paysite so she is not peggy sims.


LOL..hmmm...i noticed ur donations set...I need to take a look at them *wink*
Looks like u are a sucker for bedroom and bathrooms like me evil luffs.

[ZephyrZodiac]

Sunair had a smallish site to begin with and at first updates were infrequent and small, so I would say she had a lot of stuff in the pipeline which she was working on until she was satisfied with them.

Good creators do play, if only a test house or two to put their stuff into and check that it works.  You really can't just create a mesh and offer it to others if you haven't tested it pretty thoroughly yourself first, or your inbox would be bursting at the seams with complaints!

I have to confess, I'm a sucker for 4ESF2 and I have everything but one bathroom (which I'll probably get sometime too....) and I use her stuff a lot if I'm running a modern theme.

[J. M. Pescado]

I propose a share policy once discreetly and some people thought I am asking them to rob a bank. I am no bank robber. I just cannot afford to spend so much on subs. I am so skinny I cannot reduce my soda intakes anymore and I don't wanna go topless

I had that thought also. Robbery is good!

[DrBeast]

Joke, Joyce!

I have trouble sometimes telling when you're joking.  

Good ol' British Stee...eeh!...humour 

[ZephyrZodiac]

Stee?

[DrBeast]

Stee?

Steel. Like, British Steel. Like the infamous Judas Priest album. I was listening to that very album when I wrote my reply.

Edit: just noticed I missed out the whole of page 3 of this thread before posting. Wow me! Senility is catching up at the age of 31!

[Jysudo]

I propose a share policy once discreetly and some people thought I am asking them to rob a bank. I am no bank robber. I just cannot afford to spend so much on subs. I am so skinny I cannot reduce my soda intakes anymore and I don't wanna go topless

I had that thought also. Robbery is good!

But JM, you don't even need to rob. As far as I tell from ur screenshots, you didnt even have a single cc!

[ZephyrZodiac]

Perhaps he keeps them on lots he doesn't post screenshots of?  I mean, how could he pass up such things as the Samurai sword at Avenida?  Or the hunters' gun and trophies at SimsConnection?

And I'm sure he has Inge's prison installed, and coolone is one of the inmates!

[BlueSoup]

He has a few custom outfits for specific Sims (like Sim-Brynne for instance has her hair), but I asked him about custom objects and he said he only had one because it was just too cool to pass up.  I wish I could remember what it was.

[ZephyrZodiac]

Madame Guillotine?

[holly]

 its true about tsr id love to know how the fa's are recruited , infact id love to know how some of the stuff even gets passed to be on the site , but foutunatly theres still enough good stuff there for it to be worth the sub .

and as ive said before i dont mind subs i pay them people deserve them , but some donation sets annoy me cause it can a little underhanded esp when u add up the cost of everything they have on there site

[ZephyrZodiac]

Always annoys me too, when I've bought sets individually, to see them grouped in a package at just over half the original cost!

[Jysudo]

I would really love to know what that one cool item that JM couldn't pass up.

Oh, and TSR has been recruiting crap FAs lately . They are churning them out like a mass product factory. Like one a day and what's most iritating is that Some of them are only doing recolors. They don't even make their own meshes. and you recruit these people to be FAs...sheesh. I feel unjustified for the mesh makers and those meshes are free, FOC at no charge!

I feel so annoyed that I am not going to sub to TSR anymore. Besides my dl folder is bulging.

[BlueSoup]

Heh.  Sorry, I messed up.  It was something for SC4 he couldn't pass up.  Some sort of trash, Into the Abyss sorta thing.

[Jysudo]

ZZ, clear ur inbox and let me know when its cleared. Thks.

[ZephyrZodiac]

Done.

[lemmiwinks]

  Who coined the phrase "Donation Gift"? George Orwell?
"Extortion Goods" would seem to be a little more accurate.
  Just my 2 cents, keep the change.

[ZephyrZodiac]

Well, I certainly agree that "donation gift" is a bit of a contradiction in terms.  It can't be a gift if you pay a donation to get it.  I have no problem with "Donation Set" which says what it is, you pay a donation and in return you receive the set - but it isn't a gift, it's a purchase.

I have a much bigger problem with "free" programs which offer to clean up your PC, sort out your junk files etc. etc., and then when you download the "free program" you find it cleans up maybe a couple of files, tells you of 100 or so others, which you can get rid of if you buy the full program.  That is a con!

[lemmiwinks]

Well, I certainly agree that "donation gift" is a bit of a contradiction in terms.  It can't be a gift if you pay a donation to get it.  I have no problem with "Donation Set" which says what it is, you pay a donation and in return you receive the set - but it isn't a gift, it's a purchase.

I have a much bigger problem with "free" programs which offer to clean up your PC, sort out your junk files etc. etc., and then when you download the "free program" you find it cleans up maybe a couple of files, tells you of 100 or so others, which you can get rid of if you buy the full program.  That is a con!

  A "Donation" is not something you pay for something with. A "Donation" is an end unto itself.
You either buy something or you don't.
  And holy crap yes about the "free" pc scanners!  Kinda makes me want to join (or start) a jihad against lying thieving capitalist pigs.
  The only thing worse is lying thieving commie pigs.
When I am in charge, things are gonna be different...