Bathroom Controller: In Soviet Russia, Bathroom Uses You!

[witch]

Sounds like you have Pescado's 'nouniprotect' hack in your game.  Take it out and the dormies will behave like normal, and never pass out anywhere.

I dunno if the behavior that results without it is "normal". Having them invulnerably play the instruments for 4 days nonstop is not "normal"...

For students on speed it would be...

[Karen]

I was trying to use "Change xxx's Appearance" on a mirror to change a toddler's appearance.  The mom picked up the toddler, carried him into the bathroom where the mirror was, changed his appearance, and then got stuck holding him, with the BUY icon appearing in her queue and then disappearing over and over again.  The error indicates she was trying to put him down, but I'm thinking the bathroom controller was trying to shoo the toddler at the same time, so she got stuck in a loop.  I ended up deleting her (and the toddler she was holding) because I couldn't get out of the loop.

Is this something you can fix?

Karen

[RainbowTigress]

I'm not sure if Pescado will be able to fix it or not, but I have a feeling that he might say to just don't put mirrors in the bathroom.

[Karen]

I'm not sure if Pescado will be able to fix it or not, but I have a feeling that he might say to just don't put mirrors in the bathroom.

You're probably right about that.  And most of my houses have mirrors scattered everywhere *but* the bathroom.  Still, a bathroom would seem to be a reasonable place to stick a mirror, don't you think? 

Karen

[RainbowTigress]

Yes, I agree.  But Pescado isn't exactly a reasonable guy. 

[Fish Dude]

In a Uni neighbourhood, i have a custom greek house. It has one bathroom with a BUY inside. Currently, there's four people living there, but after the they have been used, they stay inside the bathroom. No error messages. They have to be manually moved for them to get out, while the other people waiting outside the bathroom still have the "Wait For" in their queue even though she has left the bathroom.

[J. M. Pescado]

Have you made sure the door is not blocked, and does not attempt to exit into a bathroom? If you've placed a fixture such as a shower, terlet, or tub in the room you want them to "Exit" to, BUY will see it as part of a bathroom and not eject people into that room. When it can't find anywhere else to go, it will barf. It also can't eject people through stairs or elevators, so these should not be the only way of entering the room.

[Fish Dude]

Nope, the door leads to a bit of corridor, with the terlet next to the door, the shower/tub combo is at the other end of the bathroom.

[Kyna]

Which way does the door open?  And is there a ceiling light just inside the door, if it opens into the bathroom?

Ceiling lights too close to doors means that the door won't close.  If the door opens into the bathroom (instead of out to the corridor) then maybe the sim is too stupid to find the way out doesn't have a way out.

[Fish Dude]

I cant remember now, but it is a slightly converted house from La Fiesta Tech, the one where the Worthington family did live...i only added some walls to make room for two bedrooms, i didnt touch the bathroom.

But then all most of Maxis' stuff is bugged anyway.

[jsalemi]

Which way is the toilet pointing?  I had problems similar to that when the toilet was pointing toward the door opening -- if a sim was on the toilet, other sims wouldn't walk past even though the space was clear.  It seems that the toilet blocks two tiles, even though it only occupies one.  Turning the toilet to be parallel to the door opening fixed it.

[Fish Dude]

Yup, the toilet is parallel to the door.

[jsalemi]

I wonder if it's a similar problem to the dorm problem I reported a couple of days ago, where if a sim is taking a shower, the BUY controller kicks all the other sims out of the bathroom and makes them wait.  It works fine with multiple stalls, but if one sim showers, nobody else can use the bathroom.

[RainbowTigress]

Are you using the uni showers or the regular showers?  The cheap uni showers don't require privacy like the others do.

[Fish Dude]

its the shower/tub combo (the expensive one) but i dont think thats causing the problem, its the toilet thats causing the problem. Ill try reinstalling the BUY and see if that helps.

[RainbowTigress]

Well, I was actually referring to jsalemi and his dorm situation. 

[jsalemi]

Are you using the uni showers or the regular showers?  The cheap uni showers don't require privacy like the others do.

Default uni showers in pretty much unmodified Maxis-built dorms. I first noticed it in the 9-room U-shaped dorm, and have since observed it in other dorms where there are multiple stalls and showers in the same bathroorm. They worked fine up until the latest BUY update, and then the problem I described began.  It's definitely something it the most recent BUY.
 

[J. M. Pescado]

Did you install one TP per terlet? Each TP roll grants a single docking port. Also, if you have a standard shower, the privacy-demanding kind, then the entire complex will become unavailable due to the privacy lockout. The TP roll actually detects this condition if it occurs in a nonradial and recognizes that it is unavailable.

[jsalemi]

Did you install one TP per terlet? Each TP roll grants a single docking port. Also, if you have a standard shower, the privacy-demanding kind, then the entire complex will become unavailable due to the privacy lockout. The TP roll actually detects this condition if it occurs in a nonradial and recognizes that it is unavailable.

Yes, one per toilet, and standard uni showers.  As I said, it was working fine up until I installed the latest version -- I didn't change anything in the setup of the bathrooms or BUY controllers.. It's only had a problem kicking everyone out when a sim takes a shower since. It looks like it's treating the uni communal shower as a privacy-type.

[J. M. Pescado]

I have not observed this effect, but I'll test it out and see what happens.

[jsalemi]

It's most obvious in the dorm I mentioned above -- the u-shaped 9 room dorm with two stalls and two uni showers in each of the bathrooms.

[Ominous]

I have noticed two things with the bathroom controller.

1.  If I place the showers in a seperate, but adjoining room to the toilets the BUY controller goes on the fritz and tries, but fails at sending my sims to the shower and ends up in an ugly loop.  I am referring to stall toilets and uni showers.

2.  I have multiple stalls and multiple BUYs (2 to be exact) in a dorm bathroom.  Both the showers and stalls are in the same room.  From time to time the controller(s) will wig out and repeatedly re-que my sim to go to the bathroom but he/she just stands outside the bathroom like a deer in headlights even though there is only one sim in the bathroom.  From what I can tell the controllers are working against each other but I can't say for sure.

[J. M. Pescado]

Screenshots of the afflicted layouts will aid diagnosis.

[Ominous]

Here is the layout with and without the wall separator.

[dizzy]

Does BUY handle gender-specific doors?