Bathroom Controller: In Soviet Russia, Bathroom Uses You!

[J. M. Pescado]

Again? Stupid NL bugs. Does this happen with "nl-anticrash" installed from the Director's Cut? We can try to track this down, but without NL, it mostly involves changing random things and seeing if it still crashes. It is recommended that you simply upgrade to a stable engine, NL's engine is very, very buggy. Try this test with free will disabled, and see if it crashes when you mouseover. This would be easier to track down live, but nobody here has an NL-only install anymore.

[Emma]

I use the basegame/anygame starter on a regular basis, so if you need something testing just give me a shout. I have NL only installed at the moment.

[J. M. Pescado]

Well, try to use BUY with free will off and let me know at what point it explodes. And again, the problem is the lack of real-time feedback. It does little good to have a turnaround of hours. Someone needs to do this in the chat. Also, death to Emmas.

[Emma]

Okay, will do. If I can get in chat I will.

[Emma]

Went in-game, loaded up a pre-made house & family. Free will is activated. Paused the game to place BUY, unpaused. 2 seconds later crash to desktop. NL only & NL DC installed.

[J. M. Pescado]

See, this is exactly why this won't work, because a certain STUPID EMMA CANNOT FOLLOW DIRECTIONS.

[Jelenedra]

Psst:

Well, try to use BUY with free will off and let me know at what point it explodes.

[Emma]

Oops. That was just a test to see if you were all paying attention.
I'll go and do it properly now

[Emma]

Free will off- power idle. Macro>power idle, sims used the bathroom automatically. No crash.
Free will off- no power idle. I directed the sims to use the bathroom by directly clicking on the controller (for one sim) and macro>use bathroom on the other sim. No crash.
Free will on-power idle. Used bathroom automatically and also when directed by clicking on the controller. No crash.
Free will on-no power idle. Crashed immediately.

[CatGirl]

Free will off- power idle. Macro>power idle, sims used the bathroom automatically. No crash.
Free will off- no power idle. I directed the sims to use the bathroom by directly clicking on the controller (for one sim) and macro>use bathroom on the other sim. No crash.
Free will on-power idle. Used bathroom automatically and also when directed by clicking on the controller. No crash.
Free will on-no power idle. Crashed immediately.

What Emma said.

Then I spawned a tombstone of L&D and it crashed after several seconds. (No actions except clicking on it and generating a pie menu.) No idea if THAT crash was related to BUY as I don't think I've spawned one since I installed NL.

You've convinced me I need OFB, though.

[sloppyhousewife]

I have bathrooms on all my community lots, with 2-3 toilet stalls, 2-3 communal showers and a BUY controller per toilet stall. That worked fine before FT, but yesterday I had a sim 1 shoo a sim 2 (that already was in a toilet stall, but entered the room after sim 1)  out of the room because he wanted to shower. WTF? Needing privacy for a shower somewhat defeats the purpose of a *communal* shower. And I know there weren't any problems pre-FT, so I guess the communal showers are borked now. Could this perhaps be fixed? Oh, and the sim in question isn't even overly shy - I've had sims with fewer outgoing points shower together with others without problems.

[lordrichter]

I had a residential lot (with a large common restroom facility) that had this problem pre-FT.  I never did figure out what the deal was.  I've done this in other dorms and residential lots with success.  I assumed it was BUY failing badly and rebuilt the facility into several tiny rooms.

[J. M. Pescado]

The shooing nuisance is an artifact of the game itself, not BUY. Sims of differing age classes refuse to share the shower area.

[sloppyhousewife]

The shooing nuisance is an artifact of the game itself, not BUY. Sims of differing age classes refuse to share the shower area.

I thought already that it was an EAxis issue, I just never witnessed this behaviour pre-FT, so I thought they broke something with this EP that could be easily fixed with a minor tweak of BUY. But if it's always been that way and only age class related anyway, I don't mind.

[J. M. Pescado]

As above, chopping the floor into tiny bits with dividers and making the controller radial-moded tends to fix the shower issue.

[sloppyhousewife]

As above, chopping the floor into tiny bits with dividers and making the controller radial-moded tends to fix the shower issue.

That's so simple that it's brilliant. By the way, I have been wondering how exactly the radius is determined. If I have a radius of 1, is this to be understood as C=D (i.e. BUY controller and bathroom device are on the same tile), or would that be a radius of 0?

[J. M. Pescado]

I believe that is a zero. It will print the detected radial distances when you set the radius, listing all the objects it finds.

[axlekitty]

I have a problem and I'm not sure if anyone can reproduce it. I am currently using your hacks:

Bathroom uses you
Sleep Clock
Coffee cup Hack
Punch cup Hack
Yellow Pee

I have all expansions and stuff packs
My sim is in the police field, I send him to work after using the clock to make him sleep/wake up. I usually cue a few things up for him to do when he gets home. I have tried the bathroom with seek on and with it off. If the bathroom decides he needs to be used, it will spawn him home from work when he has just left. I've been seeing him "appear" on my lot after he left and isn't due to come home yet. This is making him lose all his jobs b/c the game reports "you missed work!". Please help!

I have all the latest downloads available from this site and I haven't seen this happen before I installed the new expansion.

[RainbowTigress]

Did you make sure to get the new versions of those hacks for the new EP?

[axlekitty]

Just dl-d them yesterday Is there an updated link so I can make sure that is where I got them from?

[letitia]

As above, chopping the floor into tiny bits with dividers and making the controller radial-moded tends to fix the shower issue.

can you please tell me what radial-moded is? i tried putting a wall divider, but sims keep shooing as long as there's other people in the room =/

thanks!

[Nec]

I have a problem and I'm not sure if anyone can reproduce it. I am currently using your hacks:

Bathroom uses you
Sleep Clock
Coffee cup Hack
Punch cup Hack
Yellow Pee

Yellow Pee requires yellowpee, yellowpeeobject, noteleportpuddle and vampwerefixes to be installed as well. Make sure you have all of them.

[sloppyhousewife]

can you please tell me what radial-moded is?

INSTRUCTIONS:
Place in your MYDOCU~1\EAGAME~1\THESIM~1\DOWNLO~1 directory.

I.  BE USED
        Instructs the bathroom to use the Sim.
II.  CONFIGURE SEARCH ROOM/RADIUS
        ROOM ONLY: Controller will only search for devices inside current room.
        RADIUS: Controller will search for devices within specified radius.
III. CONFIGURE SEEK ON/OFF
        OFF: Bathroom will only use people found loitering in the bathroom.
        ON:  Bathroom will use resident sims as required.
For optimal results, place them at least one per bathroom minimum, preferrably
one per toilet. For optimal results, the "stall" toilets are recommended.

[letitia]

thank you. i didn't know radial means radius... x_X

anyway, i assume chopping the floor into tiny bits means you have to put the shower in different rooms, right? (i.e putting walls and doors) coz the divider won't do, sims keep shooing others in the same room when they want to shower...

[kuronue]

thank you. i didn't know radial means radius... x_X

anyway, i assume chopping the floor into tiny bits means you have to put the shower in different rooms, right? (i.e putting walls and doors) coz the divider won't do, sims keep shooing others in the same room when they want to shower...

if the shower is in radius of the BUY, they shouldn't be using the shower unless BUY tells them to, in which case it'll kick out other sims wanting to get in the bathroom.