"Really needs to pee" analysis

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Salomon:
I think this is an interesting topic, specially considering how cut the game feels on interactions and animations when compared to previous games.

We get 2 hugging animations, 3 kissing animations, 1 flirting animation... We don't have any animation related to playing with another sim directly, no massages... Many of the interactions that were in previous games for different age groups are gone entirely...

The list of lacking content goes on an on, but when it comes to the "Really needs to pee" debuffs, this aspect seems complete.

My current theory is that one of the developers of TS4 is an omorashi (which means, people that feel pleasure when they see other people being desperate to pee), and they had a lot of fun working in this aspect of the game.

Let's take a look at it:

The game has an entire emotion only accessible when the sim's bladder is in the red, the "very uncomfortable" state which I haven't seem them have in another way, and which, if followed, leads to animations where it seems as if the sim is enjoying to hold their pee (in detail, sims with a great urge to pee switch to this emotion and have a whim to take a bath, and if you do it, the sim, siill bursting, switches to the happy emotion and it's shown laughing while taking the bath).

The game has 2 related debuffs, the "needs to pee" and "really needs to pee" ones which affect how the sim walks and to which of the animations below it has access.

One may think "well, that makes sense and seems easy to program", but that's where the rabbit hole starts.

There are two different animations for when the sim whines because they have a full bladder, depending on how full it is, one where they wave at the camera.

There are two different animations for when the sim is standing and struggles to hold their pee. In these animations, the sim sighs at the end as in "Phew! I though I was going to piss over myself on that one! But I could control it!" One of them is lengthy and detailed, as if they got a model that really needed to pee for the game.

There are two different animations when the sim is sitting and realizes they need to pee, one including a complain. Previous games would have an animation that would play when a sitting sim was low in a need, or couldn't reach a place they wanted to go, or an object they wanted to use was unavailable, and the sim would recycle that animation. It gets its custom one this time around.

The pissing pants animation is unique instead of being a recycled one.

There's an extra animation, that doesn't seem to have a reason to be there, unless a developer really had nothing better to do with their time: sims now "pee dance". This animation meshes well with the walking animation, and it's rare. As the sims is walking, it puts both feet together, then steps back and puts both feet together again, before resuming walking, all while keeping their legs closed and twisting their body to hold it. I may be the most cute animation in the entire game, but makes me wonder how much time it was spent on this for show.

The thing doesn't end there, on previous games, where sims had a low bladder, there was some kind of urgency to use the toilet, at least, there was some point at which the sim would get obsessed with using a toilet if their bladder was red enough. Not so here, the sim will happily choose to go to sleep with a low bladder, or taking a shower then going to sleep while their bladder is low (on previous games, a sim in the bathroom with a low bladder would always choose to use the toilet).

There's even a mod out there that forces sims to use the toilet before going to sleep just to avoid waking up in the middle of the night.

When two sims entered the bathroom, the one needing to use it badly would shoo away the other and use the toilet. Here, it may go like "oh, there's someone here. I really need to go but that's impossible, guess I'll go get a drink instead."

The toilet may break now, and it may do so right before a sim that really need to go sits on it, and they will just stand up and refuse to use it, and if it's the only toilet on the house you may need to buy a new one, see the sim pee themselves, or watch as they fix it while on pee desperation (very suspicious, just like omorashi videos that show people holding it while doing other things) which is unavailable for children.

And speaking of children, in TS2 children would almost never go into pee desperation, unless it was a weekend. The reason for this was that they would use the school's toilet every day, and otherwise, they could use the schoolbus' toilet so you could ignore it entirely.

TS4's children behave differently, coming from school with a bladder full enough that you can see them desperate every day if you focus on doing other things. My guess is they made all these new animations for children that needed to go and it would have been a waste if the bladder worked like in the old system.

And finally, there's toilet cancellation. In TS2, a sim that had already started releasing, if stopped, would go to at least 3/4 empty bladder. In TS4 there's a clock that appears around the toilet that you can stop at any point, so a cancelled sim may go from very red to just red.

While the sims of TS2 were just terrible at bladder management causing accidents often enough to need a Toilet Uses You mod, TS4 is more about showing the sims in the pee desperation stage and being very detailed at it. And it seems done on purpose.

It may seem some of this stuff is caused by being careless about it, such as lack of shooing, but I wonder, would adding shooing to the game have taken more effort than adding so many animations about it?

I think this is relevant because, one could possibly think that the lack of other kinds of interactions and animations was caused mainly because of laziness, lack or time, or lack of resources, but this means the time and resources were just used on this instead.

J. M. Pescado:


It sounds like you know a lot about this subject, though. Imma make this your schtick if I start filling with selfsims again. I mean, really? There's an entire genre of video about this? One that has its own word, which sounds Japanese? And you know what's in them? You sound ilke an expert. You are our new resident Weeaboo Pee Specialist.

cwurts:
I blame MATY for all this. During TS2 and TS3, there was that long story on here with nothing but sims fighting and peeing themselves. It had a negative influence on the developers.

jezzer:
Please stop posting long-winded assburgery rants about stupid things.

HomeschooledByTards:
Our previous TL;DR was much more LULZy. This one is just a snooze-fest. >:(

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