Razor1911 release vs. Reloaded release

[Bass Junkie]

Oh no, I just spent one week downloading the game, version 1.0.615.00107

Did I  just waste one week?  Or can I just upgrade this version?  

Are you on dialup or something?

[xaricescakes]

Are you on dialup or something?

No, very very slow DSL.

[lingeringviolet]

Are you on dialup or something?

No, very very slow DSL.

Methinks it's time to switch ISPs.

[griz]

(5.6 gigabytes) / (7 days) = 77.6722963 kilobits per second

nearly 40% faster than 56k dialup! I hope you aren't paying much for that.

[rufio]

Wow, I'm using intermittently available unencrypted wireless internet that's actually owned by my neighbors, and even I got the game in only two and half days.

[Bass Junkie]

Wow, I'm using intermittently available unencrypted wireless internet that's actually owned by my neighbors, and even I got the game in only two and half days.

Shit man, now you just need to be using a stolen laptop in a squat house and you're sweet.

[rufio]

Pirate cat doesn't pay for bandwidth, right?

Actually, I was going to actually shell it out for an internet connection, but then discovered that it was actually not that hard to find free wireless in coffee shops and at the University and so forth.  The fact that my neighbors had unencrypted wireless at the time I was downloaded TS3 was something of an accident (my neighbors actually change every few months or so - some of them are more tech-savvy than others).

[morriganrant]

Heh.  Codec.exe NAILED ME, even after I read everything previously warning about it.  I am so dumb.  I scanned it with AVAST (best anti-virus program there is, seriously) and couldn't see it.  Sure enough, after I tried to install it and it failed, I got virus warnings, and WINRAR revealed that, yes, Sims3Installer.exe was really a Rar executable with codec.exe inside.

I wanted to get a copy with one of the trojans inside to see if malwarebytes would pick it up. Avast tends to only report things when they try to run, or you try to access an infected file. I torrented both versions and neither had an issue. I guess I'm lucky, or not in this case. I only wanted to satisfy my curiosity at anyrate.

[Salomon]

Oh no, I just spent one week downloading the game, version 1.0.615.00107

Did I  just waste one week?  Or can I just upgrade this version? 

I've read there's a 700MBsomething patch that allows you to upgrade from the Reloaded version to the Razor version.

Also, you may consider doing other things (multitasking) while the game is downloading, so the time isn't wasted.

[Doc Doofus]

I wanted to get a copy with one of the trojans inside to see if malwarebytes would pick it up. Avast tends to only report things when they try to run, or you try to access an infected file. I torrented both versions and neither had an issue. I guess I'm lucky, or not in this case. I only wanted to satisfy my curiosity at anyrate.

The one I downloaded was the Razor1911 version of Sims 3 that had the most seeds and leech activity at Isohunt.  (Torrent name: "The Sims 3 - Razor1911.torrent")

Avast has earned my undying respect.  I had a rootkit one time (Alureon) that was borking my two DVD burners and making them give me the very strange Windows error "Maximum Secrets exceeded."  It turns out that that is a hard-to-explain reference to a State Department regulation (I kid you not) that prohibits disks with too many "secret" areas.  The word was not "hidden" or "encrypted."  "Secret."  Google "Maximum Secrets exceeded."  People on the virus forums thought it was bullshit.

I ran about seven anti-virus and malware programs, and the only one that found the problem and fixed it was the last one, Avast.

Ones that didn't find it included:

AVG free
AVG premium
PC Tools Anti-virus
Malware MBAM (if found NOTHING)
Avira
RootRepeal
SanityClear (?)
Something else.

I was also extra-pissed-off that AVG premium didn't find it, because it specifically advertises its rootkit features in the advertising for the premium version.  Bullshit.  I have absolutely no respect for AVG or anything GRISOFT produces anymore.  .

[geekily]

I downloaded the Reloaded version when it first came out and wasn't impressed enough to keep playing, but now that all this content from the store is coming out and I'm seeing everyone's pretty legacies and stuff, I want to try again. Can I just stick with the Reloaded version, or should I upgrade to the Razor1911 version for the sake of installing the store stuff, etc?

[Kyna]

Pirate cat doesn't pay for bandwidth, right?

Actually, I was going to actually shell it out for an internet connection, but then discovered that it was actually not that hard to find free wireless in coffee shops and at the University and so forth.  The fact that my neighbors had unencrypted wireless at the time I was downloaded TS3 was something of an accident (my neighbors actually change every few months or so - some of them are more tech-savvy than others).

So in Rufio-world, there is no ethical problem with stealing bandwidth from your neighbours, but there is with scanning a book?

That seems like a backwards, non-standard view of the issue.  I'd have less problems with scanning a book (i.e. stealing profits from a faceless publishing house) than I would with stealing from the people who are my neighbours (even though I can't stand most of them).

[Marhis]

Re: bandwidth stealing.

I see a practical issue more important than the moral one. Unless in USistan things are going totally different than here, whatever is done from a certain IP/connection/LAN legally refers to the registered owner of that IP (according to the ISP registry).
If I do something illegal using someone else's IP, they will not incriminate me, but them. I know the laws pertaining this issue are being discussed right now, but still it doesn't seem to me a good thing to do.

[rufio]

So in Rufio-world, there is no ethical problem with stealing bandwidth from your neighbours, but there is with scanning a book?

Actually, I am not ethically opposed to either - if someone is going to leave their wireless unencrypted, they have to know that people are going to use it.  Also, I don't normally do things that use up much bandwidth.

The issue with scanning the book was that I was respecting rules my father had made about the use of his equipment, out of politeness for him.  I realize this is a foreign concept to most of you.

[Solowren]

I downloaded the Reloaded version when it first came out and wasn't impressed enough to keep playing, but now that all this content from the store is coming out and I'm seeing everyone's pretty legacies and stuff, I want to try again. Can I just stick with the Reloaded version, or should I upgrade to the Razor1911 version for the sake of installing the store stuff, etc?

Well, logically, if the store stuff got you interested again (among other things), you'd want the version that can use the store stuff, yes?

[geekily]

I downloaded the Reloaded version when it first came out and wasn't impressed enough to keep playing, but now that all this content from the store is coming out and I'm seeing everyone's pretty legacies and stuff, I want to try again. Can I just stick with the Reloaded version, or should I upgrade to the Razor1911 version for the sake of installing the store stuff, etc?

Well, logically, if the store stuff got you interested again (among other things), you'd want the version that can use the store stuff, yes?

Ah, sorry, I didn't know - I thought I read most of the 11 pages and just saw that the patching didn't work, but I guess I must have skipped over that part. I started dl'ing the Razor version, anyway - should be done in just under 2 hours. Gotta love those private trackers. Thanks for the reply!

[morriganrant]

I ran about seven anti-virus and malware programs, and the only one that found the problem and fixed it was the last one, Avast.

Oh, I love Avast too, I recommend it for everyone. It is my virus scan of choice. It has just already been reported that Avast hasn't picked up the trojans on a scan of the ISO or the individual EXEs. I was curious whether Malwarebytes would. I use a combo of Malwarebytes and Avast to rid of any ills that I might encounter. What Avast can't get rid of, Malwarebytes has. I've use both to rid several friends of Vundo of varying severity, each one on their own did not get all of the files.

[Roflganger]

Well, logically, if the store stuff got you interested again (among other things), you'd want the version that can use the store stuff, yes?

Due to download limits (I live on the edge of the 3rd world), and because it was working perfectly well, I never changed from my original Reloaded install, and all the store stuff has worked fine for me (with the aid of Pes' tool, etc.).

[Solowren]

Due to download limits (I live on the edge of the 3rd world), and because it was working perfectly well, I never changed from my original Reloaded install, and all the store stuff has worked fine for me (with the aid of Pes' tool, etc.).

Hmm, that is good to know.

Regardless, I still recommend upgrading to Razor1911 for use of Awesomemod when it goes public, as I do believe that requires the full, final version.

[Insanity Prelude]

All right. RLD-RZR patch is go- where's the .632 patch, since if I recall correctly earlier in the thread you guys were saying EA took it down? (PB search came up with nothing. or rather, nothing that I was actually intending to search for.)

[morriganrant]

All right. RLD-RZR patch is go- where's the .632 patch, since if I recall correctly earlier in the thread you guys were saying EA took it down? (PB search came up with nothing. or rather, nothing that I was actually intending to search for.)

Witch posted links to them in this thread. There are two patches. I'm unsure what the difference is between them, other the region that is. If you are determined to install both of them then you have to change the regional setting of the game in your registry.
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15009.msg433197.html#msg433197

[cyperangel]

I wanted to get a copy with one of the trojans inside to see if malwarebytes would pick it up. Avast tends to only report things when they try to run, or you try to access an infected file. I torrented both versions and neither had an issue. I guess I'm lucky, or not in this case. I only wanted to satisfy my curiosity at anyrate.

You wanted the infected version, so here ya go. I got it but Avast warned me. http://www.torrentreactor.net/torrents/3120778/The-Sims-3-FULL-EN-PC

[jolrei]

Now that the real thing's out, are we sure RZR is the final version?

Reasonably certain, yes.  I got my hands on a retail copy in a "cheap as free" manner and installed.  The Razor crackfix TS3.exe file is the exact same version as the .exe that comes on the disk.  The RZR crack in the crackfix works as a no-DVD for the released retail version.  I would conclude that the retail and RZR versions are the same.

[morriganrant]

I wanted to get a copy with one of the trojans inside to see if malwarebytes would pick it up. Avast tends to only report things when they try to run, or you try to access an infected file. I torrented both versions and neither had an issue. I guess I'm lucky, or not in this case. I only wanted to satisfy my curiosity at anyrate.

You wanted the infected version, so here ya go. I got it but Avast warned me. http://www.torrentreactor.net/torrents/3120778/The-Sims-3-FULL-EN-PC

Thank you very much! Avast was reported to have not given warning on the other two trojans that are out though.

[bloodredtoe]

I have a stupid question. Does my region depend on what I chose at installation or does it verify somehow differently?
Just curious which region I actually have and how heavily further downloads will depend on it:S