Fears and Wants that don't trigger

[Gus Smedstad]

I thought there were only a couple of flakey Wants, such as Stay Home From Work, where the game wouldn't acknowledge that you'd fulfilled it.

Recently I noticed that toddlers don't care if they puke, even if they have the fear.  More significantly, the "Eat XXXX" Want doesn't work anymore.  "Learn to Cook XXX" does, but the simpler Eat want, which I know for a fact used to work, no longer does.

I'm currently running the patched version of Seasons.  Free Time is supposed to show up tomorrow.

Anyone else notice other wants or fears being borked?

 - Gus

[SpaceDoll]

WooHoo in the tent does not satisfy the woohoo want, IIRC.  I know it doesn't show up for the first WooHoo memory.  Of course, public WooHoos have always been rather particular, so this might have been predicted, and duly ignored.

[talysman]

I have no problem with "Eat/Learn to Cook XXX", they always trigger for me. But then, I have NL. I'm clearing out various audio/video project files to make room for the expansion packs. Since I have the same problem with toddler fears that you do, that means it can't be caused by post-NL b0rkage. I think toddler fears are just b0rken, period.

I'm not sure I've seen the generic "Eat" at all.

"Stay Home From Work" only triggers if you call in, as I recall. Missing the carpool won't fulfill it.

Can't think of any others that simply won't trigger, off-hand. Just the ones that are hard to trigger deliberately.

[croiduire]

I have everything up through FT, and I'm rather annoyed right now. One of my sims rolled the want to go on vacation, his wife rolled the higher aspiration go on a specific (in this case mountain) vacation. I decided to gratify them, but when they got off the shuttle at their destination the wants were still unfulfilled, and since then they haven't been rolling up most of the normal vacation wants either.

[Gwill]

Recently I noticed that toddlers don't care if they puke, even if they have the fear.

Are they puking from eating pet food?  As far as I understand, that doesn't really count as puking, you just get the animation.

[Gus Smedstad]

No, I fed them rotten bottles.  They promptly puked, but didn't get the fear.

 - Gus

[Swiftgold]

I've noticed the pleasure sim/comm lot want to Soak In Hot Tub never fires, too.

[Zazazu]

Hunh. It fires for me. Brionna was obsessed with hot tubs, and one didn't really fit into their home lot. She had one at Dance! (owned community lot). Getting in it triggered the want to fulfill, and it would pop up again soon.

Now, her brother Bastion was also a Pleasure sim and may never have had the want. I don't recall it. He was more of the "Go on Date" type of guy.

[notveryawesome]

The 'Play Chess' want on a community lot does not trigger for me, but I'm sure that it used to. I'm wondering if this is because lower-skilled sims can only practise chess, not play it.

[FourCats]

talk to relative, did not work when my sim talked to relative on the phone.

[Gus Smedstad]

Update: I installed Free Time (with the crack, since I no wanty InsecureRom), and the "Eat XXXX" worked again.  Which may or may not be related, you know how it is.

Speaking of which, how the heck do you fulfill the "Win Gaming Contest" want?  My started it, another Sim joined in and lost, and then he just went on and on and on playing by himself.  I had to cancel it eventually because it was time for sleep.

 - Gus

[talysman]

Update: I installed Free Time (with the crack, since I no wanty InsecureRom), and the "Eat XXXX" worked again.  Which may or may not be related, you know how it is.

Speaking of which, how the heck do you fulfill the "Win Gaming Contest" want?  My started it, another Sim joined in and lost, and then he just went on and on and on playing by himself.  I had to cancel it eventually because it was time for sleep.

I've always thought any of the "Win a Game Against XXX" wants weren't worth it, because they are almost always paired with the equivalent fear, and I haven't seen any kind of predictability. I *think* if the sim with the highest logic makes the last move in chess, that sim wins, but I haven't tested this.

[Yimmit]

talk to relative, did not work when my sim talked to relative on the phone.

In my game this has never worked on the phone. You have to invite them over and gossip!

[talysman]

talk to relative, did not work when my sim talked to relative on the phone.

In my game this has never worked on the phone. You have to invite them over and gossip!

Works for me. I just did it recently.

[J. M. Pescado]

I've always thought any of the "Win a Game Against XXX" wants weren't worth it, because they are almost always paired with the equivalent fear, and I haven't seen any kind of predictability. I *think* if the sim with the highest logic makes the last move in chess, that sim wins, but I haven't tested this.

The "Win Game" wants are basically worthless because it is impossible to influence who wins, it is entirely random whether there will even be a winner at all. Since the player cannot build any useful strategy around it, it is just slot trash.

[Gus Smedstad]

I had the delusion that Logic skill influenced the outcome.  I was just hoping the "no winner" result was because I'd done something wrong, not because the code sucked.

 - Gus

[J. M. Pescado]

I had the delusion that Logic skill influenced the outcome.  I was just hoping the "no winner" result was because I'd done something wrong, not because the code sucked.

Logic influences the outcome in the same way that the flapping of butterfly wings influences central Asian rainfall patterns and the price of milk in China.

[cwykes]

Some wants instantly re-roll themselves without fuss, so you need to count aspiration points before and after to be sure they weren't filled.  It had one I was convinced was borked until I checked that. 

[Sivany]

Speaking of which, how the heck do you fulfill the "Win Gaming Contest" want?  My started it, another Sim joined in and lost, and then he just went on and on and on playing by himself.  I had to cancel it eventually because it was time for sleep.

If only I could actually get the gaming contests to that point it would be an improvement. I had a sim start one and when another sim tried to join she turned on the computer, waited, inserted the cd, waited, then just repeated the cycle over and over. Meanwhile my sim has already been playing SSX3 for about 2 sim hours.

[Alexx]

Seems that game contest via computer is broken and working only for playstation.

[Swiftgold]

I've only done one, but it seemed to work okay, in the "computer bar" comm lot that came with Nightlife. Of course the escaped prisoner who wasn't supposed to be there and who'd just sat down won it, but what can you do...

[Saylee]

"Buy a karaoke machine" never triggers for me (I'm playing with just the EPs up to Pets), and I've had problems getting "Get fit" to trigger for a pregnant sim, though I haven't had a chance to try it with any sims that aren't pregnant.

[Yimmit]

"Buy a karaoke machine" never triggers for me (I'm playing with just the EPs up to Pets), and I've had problems getting "Get fit" to trigger for a pregnant sim, though I haven't had a chance to try it with any sims that aren't pregnant.

I've never had "Get fit" trigger, even when locked. Sim does the "sproing, now I'm fit" animation, but no trigger. I stopped bothering to lock it after a while.

talk to relative, did not work when my sim talked to relative on the phone.

In my game this has never worked on the phone. You have to invite them over and gossip!

Works for me. I just did it recently.

I wish this did work in my game. It's especially annoying at college during winter (I've got a bunch there right now) and all the family members are at school/work.

[buddha pest]

I wish this did work in my game. It's especially annoying at college during winter (I've got a bunch there right now) and all the family members are at school/work.

I could be imagining this, but I think it only works due to an Awesome mod. I don't recall which one...at all.

I don't know why, but I seem to remember when whatever mod this was first came into play, and I'm sure it was many expansion packs ago.

Actually, it may not even be an Awesome mod. Oh, I don't know. Too many years of simming fried me completely.

[Emma]

Speaking of which, how the heck do you fulfill the "Win Gaming Contest" want?  My started it, another Sim joined in and lost, and then he just went on and on and on playing by himself.  I had to cancel it eventually because it was time for sleep.

If only I could actually get the gaming contests to that point it would be an improvement. I had a sim start one and when another sim tried to join she turned on the computer, waited, inserted the cd, waited, then just repeated the cycle over and over. Meanwhile my sim has already been playing SSX3 for about 2 sim hours.

You need a community lot with just computers, and no other fun objects. You get loads of people joining then. I have one, I'll upload it later.