Broken Trashcan

[croiduire]

I have a house with half a trashcan (complete with floating lid).

It is not kicked over, in that it cannot be clicked on to be picked up, but it seems to be putting forth an endless supply of invisible trash that my sims are busily composting. Attached is the error log.
I have all EPs through Free Time installed. I have forced errors on it and on the whole house via lotdebugger--no help. What do I do next?

[Emma]

The game doesn't think it is knocked over. Weird. How are all your other lot trashcans? Have you any hacks installed relating to trashcans?

[croiduire]

All the other trashcans I've checked so far have been fine.

These are the hacks that were in place at the time of the error.

Those on the first list have all been certified as updated for FT.
abortable-at-class.package
abortbedmaking.package
ACR - Controller - Bed Socials.package
ACR - Controller - Hottub Socials.package
ACR - Controller - Main.package
ACR - Controller - Photo Booth.package
ACR - Controller - Sofa Socials.package
ACR - Plugin - Maxis Cheating Fix.package
ACR - Social - Booty Call.package
ACR - Social - Flirt - Caress.package
ACR - Social - Flirt - Charm.package
ACR - Social - Flirt - Hit On.package
ACR - Social - Flirt - Suggestion.package
ACR - Social - Flirt - Wolf Whistle.package
ACR - Social - Kiss - Make Out.package
ACR - Social - Kiss - Peck.package
ACR - Social - Kiss - Up Arm.package
Age Transition Fixes - Teens Keep Loves.package
Always Flush Toilets - Wash Hands-NP.package
antibabylecture.package
antibagthrow.package
antibusinessdecay.package
antifoodnap.package
antigardenlag.package
antipeeobsession.package
antipetobsession.package
antiprankhack.package
antiredundancy.package
antivacationactions.package
antivisitcampus.package
antiwatchout.package
antiweatherreaction.package
armyformal.package
asprechargetweak.package
authorized_personnel_only.package
auto-lateral-calls.package
autosoc.package
auto-store-food-ft.package
autoyak.package
babycontrol.package
bandatronmovefix.package
bathroomusesyou.package
bath-shower-for-visitors-ft.package
bedsidefix.package
bed-woohoo-public.package
bffsarefor12s.package
biotechfix.package
book-goal-fix.package
BottomlessBottle.package
breakupfix.package
bubble-bath-hack-ft.package
bughuntnoqueuestomp.package
businessrunsyou.package
bvchildanimfix.package
Caged Pet Fixes.package
callover.package
carpoolbringfrienddialog.package
carpoolfix.package
CBOY_cock.package
CBOY_cock_controller.package
CBOY_cock_user_textures.package
censustool.package
Cheesecake Twins Fix - 20%.package
cleanup-homework1b.package
clothingtool.package
clothingtool-globals.package
coffeecuphack.package
College Adjuster.package
collegeclock.package
college-study2-ft.package
commlightson.package
comm-skilling.package
Complain Social Fix.package
Computerfix.package
Congrats Fix.package
crumplefix.package
customerselector.package
Dance Sphere In Use Fix.package
dance-goofy-fix-ft.package
dancepositioner.package
dancepositionerglobals.package
dancetogetherteensandolder.package
darwincowplant.package
diary-test-ft.package
dirty-joke-hack2d.package
djsalwaysallowholidayroast.package
djsautorecyclingnewspaper.package
djsbigfootskilltuning.package
djslovepainting.package
djsnochanceofplantsim.package
djsnodochorescommunitylots.package
djsnofreecatlitter.package
djsnoruntoseemoveout.package
djsnozoneeffects.package
djsownablecarscostmoney.package
djspetenabledglsobjects.package
djsputyourbooksaway.package
djssleeponcommunitylots.package
dontshootfood.package
dontwaveatme.package
doorbell-quieter.package
doorjamfix.package
dormbillfix.package
dramafix.package
dropoldloves.package
eggjuicememfix.package
encouragificator.package
enemiesaccumulate.package
evilsimseviltoys.package
exit-skill-hack.package
expensivenpcs.package
fasterbuyclothes.package
ffsdebugger2.package
Find a Mate Crystal Ball.package
firemod.package
fishandharvestfix.package
fitness4all.package
flush-fish-fix.package
Food Already Available Fix.package
frontdoorhack.package
gctowniefix.package
Go Steady Critical Fix.package
gradpartymemfix.package
greek-leave-object-on-lawn.package
harderjobs.package
have-a-leftover1c-serve.package
Homework Sometimes.package
homework-in-bedroom1c.package
hugginghack.package
hula-fix-ft.package
ijAdoptInPovertyFT.package
ijApologizeForgive.package
ijBiggerMortgageShrub.package
ijDogBath.package
ijMortgageShrub.package
ijNoBunnyPatch.package
ijNoGurning.package
ijStoicismPatch.package
ijTeleporterSeasons.package
indoorplantfix.package
interactwogreet.package
interestlosshack.package
kegstand.package
kissingpoints.package
Less Belching & Farting.package
lessgamerage.package
less-lightning-fire.package
lesspetwarfare.package
lesswhiny.package
lobonanny.package
localwalkby.package
ltwvariety.package
lunch-server-breaks.package
macrotastics.package
manual-navigation.package
marriage-postmortum.package
marriage-traditional.package
meal-factory-fix.package
missingmanagerfix.package
moneyorder.package
No Autonomous Noogies.package
No Autonomous Play with Teleprompter.package
No Baby Toddler Swarming.package
No Indoors Kicky Bag.package
No Meeting Professors.package
No Pet Code Spam.package
No Shoving from Look Through.package
No Whining at Missing Objects.package
no20Khandouts.package
noadhd.package
noagediscrimination.package
noagingswarm.package
noaplusspam.package
noassignmentlitter.package
no-auto-accept-delivery.package
no-auto-computer-play.package
noautopetbuy.package
nobathroomdishes.package
nobogartingswings.package
nobuskers.package
nocollegeobsession.package
nocorruptdeath.package
nocrybabies.package
nodiningwithscum.package
nodormieregen.package
nodrivewayshuffle.package
nodroptiredbaby.package
nodupegradmems.package
noghostelevatorlag.package
no-greek-score-spam.package
nohobbyspam.package
nohumble.package
noinfluenceobsession.package
noinstantlove.package
nolamehires.package
nooffercheap.package
noplagiarism.package
noplayableshoppers.package
nopregannoy.package
no-privacy-for-naked.package
nopuddlerage.package
norabbitspin.package
noreassign.package
noroadpillows.package
noroutefail.package
noservochores.package
no-shock-indoors2c.package
nosmartmilkdrag.package
nossrespawn.package
nostrayrespawn.package
notelepathy.package
noteleportpuddle.package
notownieregen.package
noundeaddormies.package
nouniprotect.package
nounlinkondelete.package
nounneededcoats.package
novanishindorms.package
NoWelfare.package
nowhatsthis.package
npc-auto-kick.package
Nukem Wall Speaker Fix.package
orchardtreefix.package
perma-gold.package
petsp0-jobfixes.package
phonehack.package
phonehack-talkmodule.package
pizza-hack.package
Plastic Surgery for Teens.package
poolhack.package
primpfix.package
privateschoolbillfix.package
punchcuphack.package
put-down-book-bv.package
rallyforthnomove.package
random-goto-class.package
Reduced Play in Bathtub.package
relevantwages.package
remotebusinessfix.package
restaurantbarfix.package
Rewards_-_Resi_Lots.package
robotrestockfix.package
romancemod.package
romanceurnstonefix.package
rpshack.package
runtoclass.package
savethetrees.package
scannergunhack.package
School bus - bring friend dialog.package
server-shoos-you.package
shoo-fix.package
shoonobreakgroup.package
skillinator.package
sleepclock.package
sleep-tweak-hack.package
slutty-cow.package
smartercashier.package
snapdragonpets.package
snseldercareeroutfitfix.package
snsnpcslotfix.package
Social Sanity Fixes.package
Spongebath_patch.package
sshack.package
StayThingsShrub.package
stereohack.package
Stinky Dormie Fix.package
store-food-no-burnt-ft.package
stuckobjremover.package
Students Move Away From the Portal.package
SW-BV-Bellhop-Repair.package
SW-FreeTime-NPC-Phonebook-Fix.package
SW-GetTheClosestPlateStupid.package
SW-HelpShoppersFirstBasicSellOnly.package
SW-Improved-Housekeeping.package
swindlerslist.package
SW-Model-Trains-Dont-Burst-Into-Flames.package
SW-MoodCheckForSalesInteractions.package
SW-StopAllAttractionReactions.package
SW-ThrowMassiveParties-Pets-Seasons.package
synctimer.package
talk-about-major-fix.package
Teasing Fix.package
Teddy Bear No Talk Through.package
Teen - Adult & Skunk Attraction Fixes.package
thefightclub.package
tippingfix.package
toastinghack.package
Toddler Potty Fixes.package
Toddler Toy Death Fix.package
togafix.package
tombstonemovefix.package
Triplets & Quads - Random Only.package
vacationfixes.package
vampwerefixes.package
Visitor Snacking Fix.package
visitor-stays-till-late-ft.package
waiterfix.package
walk-away-fix.package
warmthfixes.package
weather-react-fix.package
Welcome Wagon Dialog.package
wfsanity.package
wind_mailboxcover.package
winterflowerfix.package
wolfwatchers.package
woohooltwfix.package
WooHooTeens_6m_FreeTime.package
WooHooTeens_6m_FreeTime_Hammocks.package
yellowpee.package
yellowpeeobject.package
Young Adult & Lazy Anim Fix.package

These are my questionable ones...using cautiously...
CBOY_ComputerMadnessFixOFB.package
CBOY_DormAssignmentFix.package
CBOY_EatMoreTalkLess.package
gardenfitnessbodyandfunforsome.package
hardergrades.package
LotFullOfSims.package
SS_QuietPregnancy.package

I don't think anything directly relates to trashcans, but after my last fiasco (with an outdated version of Risky Woohoo throwing out pet errors!) I'm making no assumptions...

[Emma]

djspetenabledglsobjects.package

I know this hasn't been updated yet. Don't know about the rest. You haven't got much more in there that I haven't got!

Rewards_-_Resi_Lots.package

What's that? Where did you get it? Is it FT compatible?

[croiduire]

Pulled both...I thought jfade had updated all his stuff at this point. Will try again.

[Annan]

What is SS_quietpregnancy? Sounds like it could do the same as nopregannoy. Did you run the hack conflict detector?

[danicast]

Check your hacks with Simwardrobe conflict detector.
Also verufy the noautonomous versions you have.

SS_quietpregnancy is a hack that disable the sound that plays when sims does whoohoo and get pregnant. That´s all.

[Sivany]

CBOY_EatMoreTalkLess.package

I was under the impression this didn't work anymore and that JM's noeatcrap had the same functions. I don't see what it would have to do with the trashcan though, but just thought I'd mention it in case anyone knew different.

Rewards_-_Resi_Lots.package

I'd like to know where this is from too and the no-auto-computer-play, I've just tried searching for them on google but to no avail.

Also there has been another update to ACR just yesterday, did you install that?

[J. M. Pescado]

SS_quietpregnancy is a hack that disable the sound that plays when sims does whoohoo and get pregnant. That´s all.

Seems pointless, considering that you'd just keep mashing the button until the option goes away, if that's what you're after.

[croiduire]

Re: Quiet Pregnancy, I never control my sims' fertility...with ACR I don't need to. I enjoy not knowing about a pregnancy before my sims do, usually when morning sickness starts, but occasionally not until they pop a second trimester belly.

HCDU showed two conflicts, which I think actually don't cause much trouble...unlike Inteen, they seem to play OK together.
*** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED ***
File Type: BHAV
Procedure Name: Soc&Rel: Adjust STR From A->B w/ nIDs
Group ID: 0x7FD46CD0
Instance ID: 0x00000352
Packages Containing This Procedure:
\downloads\Hacks--Free Time\noinstantlove.package
\downloads\Hacks--Free Time\WooHooTeens_6m_FreeTime.package
 
*** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED ***
File Type: BHAV
Procedure Name: Soc&Rel: Adjust LTR From A->B w/ nIDs
Group ID: 0x7FD46CD0
Instance ID: 0x0000038E
Packages Containing This Procedure:
\downloads\Hacks--Free Time\noinstantlove.package
\downloads\Hacks--Free Time\WooHooTeens_6m_FreeTime.package

CBOY_EatMoreTalkLess.package still works, and I love it. It makes me crazy when my sims spend an hour eating a poptart. noeatcrap doesn't help near as much. OTOH, I really don't mind the occasional bout of food poisoning, so there you go.

The no-auto computer is dizzy's, available at The Laden Swallow.  Make sure you download  spiral-ft3.zip--that's the updated version.

Rewards_-_Resi_Lots.package is TwoJeffs, available here. However, I have had trouble with it, and have since pulled it.

I've checked several more lots...only that one has a borked can, so I really don't think it's a global (hack) issue. One unique element: that can was being kicked or knocked over on an almost daily basis. Could that make a difference? Is there a way to delete and regenerate/replace the darned thing?

[jsalemi]

Rewards_-_Resi_Lots.package is TwoJeffs, available here. However, I have had trouble with it, and have since pulled it.

I've checked several more lots...only that one has a borked can, so I really don't think it's a global (hack) issue. One unique element: that can was being kicked or knocked over on an almost daily basis. Could that make a difference? Is there a way to delete and regenerate/replace the darned thing?

The rewards collection packages have been broken since OFB came out, and TJ is unable to fix them because of the way EAxis changed how collections work, so this one is definitely a no-no in FT.

Have you tried deleting it (or moving it) with moveobjects on?  There are replacements for the mailbox and trashcan available -- can't remember off the top of my head where, but someone pointed them out in another thread right in this forum within the last couple of days.  I believe it was in a tread about a borked lot.

[purplehaze]

http://daydream.etowns.net/  Sims2>hacks and mods.

[Emma]

If all your other lots in your 'hood are fine, I am guessing that this is a borked lot. Stuff everything you want to keep in inventory, then save and move them to another lot. (Or, if you have a backup of the original un-borked lot, then move them into it. It would be interesting to see if it happened again.) Bulldoze the borked trashcan one.

[SimGeekChick]

CBOY_EatMoreTalkLess.package still works, and I love it. It makes me crazy when my sims spend an hour eating a poptart. noeatcrap doesn't help near as much. OTOH, I really don't mind the occasional bout of food poisoning, so there you go.

Hey could I get a copy of that? I don't want noeatcrap because I don't like hacks that take away the possibility of making stupid mistakes. 

[J. M. Pescado]

It doesn't take it away, it just makes it personality-based.

[SimGeekChick]

It doesn't take it away, it just makes it personality-based.

It restricts it based on personality, thus taking it away for a good many sims. I don't like being restricted or nannied with my hacks. Personal preference.

[Sivany]

Eat More Talk Less by Crammyboy:

http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,1301.0.html

From results in my game I'm not entirely convinced it's working, but worth a try.

[J. M. Pescado]

It restricts it based on personality, thus taking it away for a good many sims. I don't like being restricted or nannied with my hacks. Personal preference.

Well, the thing is, unless you lock off some things to some sims and not others, all sims will behave identically. The entire point of differentiation IS boundary conditions. If everyone does the same things, then there's no differences between them.