Free Time Facts And Learnings
doren:
Quote from: kuronue on 2008 March 07, 18:40:17
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2008 March 07, 18:14:46
Quote from: kuronue on 2008 March 07, 17:31:49
Does that include toddler events like maxing skills, being potty trained, et cetera?
The point yield on those is not on the same order of magnitude and can be ignored as negligible for this estimate.
oh, right, they give you those trade-in-able points. My bad.
They don't get the benefit/LTA points independent of the lifetime meter score. Based on the information from the Prima Guide which Tigerlilley gave (which has some errors, but the hourly rates seem to be correct), a toddler on constant platinum could get a maximum of approx. 7700 points from it. As a baby (no best friend required) they get an initial bonus of 1800 points. So it works like that:
1800 points as a baby + 600 from the first skill learned = 2400. For a lifetime meter score of more than 2000 they get 2 benefit points.
Learning the other two skills will add 1200 points to that score, which means that it brings it up to 3600 points if they don't gain anything for their mood and means they don't get another LTA point because they need a lifetime meter score of 4000 for that. One child in my game which grew into a toddler last night and was trained on all skills and on constant platinum after learning the first skill, has reached a score of 5000 on its first day in that lifestage (ca. 20 hours) and has 3 points.
Toddlers close to grow up and with all skills when Freetime is installed are actually getting the worst deal because they don't start with any points, not even the bonus for birth. Generally the period from birth to reaching school age seems to give you a massive lifetime meter increase.
Children on constant platinum could add another 6700 points, so its not enough to completely fill the lifetime meter. As teenagers they could get 8700 points maximum, adults 13400.
From 6000 points, which give you 4 LTA points every increase of 3000 adds one LTA point, so you get 5 for a score of over 9000. If the sim has a miserable life and has always been on the edge of aspiration failure not even the first woohoo can save him since it doesn't bring him up to the necessary 12000 points.
The hourly addition of points apparently carries on during holidays and on community lots, which could make leaving the house a big lifetime meter booster, especially if a sim heads from one dream date to the next.
What I haven't completely worked out are the milestones. Learning the nursery rhyme definitely does not give extra points, but you don't seem to get anything for the best friend either (which usually happens when they are babies and they all have the same initial 1800 points), so I tend to believe that the information from the Prima Guide is correct there and you get the points for the first love.
Faizah:
Lamp theory: (Note, I have nothing to back this up)
Could the lamp be gained because of the points of the family as a whole? Possibly delivered to the youngest member, as it may not be possible to get another until the first sim that got it is no longer around?
Or is it simply random, as I first thought?
Kyna:
Quote from: Faizah on 2008 March 09, 22:44:07
Lamp theory: (Note, I have nothing to back this up)
Could the lamp be gained because of the points of the family as a whole? Possibly delivered to the youngest member, as it may not be possible to get another until the first sim that got it is no longer around?
Or is it simply random, as I first thought?
No, I don't think it's based on family points. Chester Gieke just got one on his second day played. He is still a "shoddy schlub" on the LTA meter and lives alone.
Simply Sadorandom is my guess.
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: doren on 2008 March 08, 10:27:17
What I haven't completely worked out are the milestones. Learning the nursery rhyme definitely does not give extra points, but you don't seem to get anything for the best friend either (which usually happens when they are babies and they all have the same initial 1800 points), so I tend to believe that the information from the Prima Guide is correct there and you get the points for the first love.
The Nursery Rhyme most certainly is NOT a listed landmark and has no known trigger. Uncertain about the best-friend part. I will re-read that section sometime.
Charamei:
I spawned the lamp from the mailbox in debug mode a while back, out of a combination of curiosity and storytelling requirements. I'm fairly sure I used an adult to do it - most likely the Sim I wanted to use it - yet the youngest Sim in the household, a toddler at the time, got the memory. Faizah may be onto something.
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