Duplicated characteres

[danicast]

I think I made it somwhow, my game is about to become a GBFVFS. I was editing some names at SIMPE and discovered that the DEFAULT family is filled with duplicated sims, copies of my playables. My chars folder have 1804 sims and I don´t have all of those sims. I decided to clean the hood (if is already going to become a GBFVFS, it worths the try).

I checked the deleteme2 thread but problem is those chars don´t appear at the debug mode, none of them. The files are there messing my game and making my hood slow but I could not find any of them to purge before I delete using SIMPE.

Suggestions? If I have no suggestions I am going to make the painful way, one by one through simpe, cleaning the hood memo file, etc.

Note: I never did any stupidity like import houses with sims full of memos, etc. I always keep my game clean and organized, I always used all Pescado´s hack (I started to play TS2 just last year) and I am surprised to see that happened. Interesting to notice that happened after I installed Pets. Now I installed Seasons and just got worse and yes, I patched my game.

[Theo]

Does SimPe's sim browser show these duplicate sims as well? And does your Characters folder has files like N001_User00088.package and N001_User00088.1.package?

Before you do anything drastic, check if those duplicate sims have different GUIDS, otherwise deleting those sims might also delete data associated with your original sims:


Finally, if you really need to delete many sims, you can select the ones you want, and use the Deleter Tool on that selection. That will save you time and lots of dialog boxes

[danicast]

check if those duplicate sims have different GUIDS

Yes, they have. It was the first thing I checked when I saw the default family were full of duplicates. Each one of them have they own GUID, have no memories, have no relationships. It´s almost like my game is making extra copies of my sims.
Achila Goth, as example, a game in-born have 5 copies of himself at the Default family, each one with a different GUID  and a N001file associatedl. None of them have memories or relationships with the real sims, it´s all blank.
Some of the duplicated sims are NPC and some of them are deceased sims that I never touched, like the Goth´s ancestors.

I think what I need to do (ouch, it will be a lot of work) is change all suspects names, then check the hood memory file to see if I didn´t changed a valid one by accident (Death and other important ones are at the Default family) and then manually delete one by one.

Check these screenshots:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/denialalice/sim0080.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/denialalice/sim0079.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/denialalice/sim0078.jpg

 and you will see what happen: I have the original Agnes Crumblewhatever with her memos (so, the real dead one) and 2 copies of her who have no memory but are individual files, one is N001_User1644 and the other one is N001_User1291. The original one is N001_User030.

The only thing that puzzles me is why my freaking game is doing this??

edit: ok, here what I discovered, apparently my game generated some kind of "backup" of all my sims - that´s why I have 1804 files, I use to have 983 sims according the backup I made after install Seasons and 974 sims a week ago. The game is using the new ones, I was checking the family trees, the game is using the most high user numbers instead the old ones.

What can be possibly happened in one week to cause this?  cause it seemed just happened in last week.

[jolrei]

Just a guess, having seen your screenshots:  you didn't by chance happen to "move in" or "marry" Mrs. Crumplebottom, did you?

She is a special NPC (like the Grim Reaper) - making these playable, moving in, etc. is a VBT.

[danicast]

Nope. Crumblewhatever is the last name of the Goths ancestors  - my game is not in english, the name is Rugabaixa (Agnes Rugabaixa is Cornelia Goth mother, I guess). The Rugabaixa are the Goths founders., MS Crumbleetc NPC is named Dona Eugenia in brazilian games, is not easy to mix those. And AGnes start the game pretty much dead.
 
I am not a stupid to do something like this, I play, mod and hack sims since 2001.

I have no clue what caused this. I am carefull even with the mods and hacks I add to my game, to avoid problems like this. I am starting to think that maybe my game didn´t saved correctly one week ago.

ETA: just FYI I am returning a backup from some days ago. It´s too much work to manually edit.
Bleh, I wish I found what caused that.

edit again: I think I know what I did that exploded my game: I moved the cemetery. I had an old cemetery that I wanted to evict so I sent a sim there to move the tombs from that cemetery to the new one. I didn´t added the tombs to his inventory I just used the move option. I have the "no unlink on delete" hack.

I think this is what screw my game, try to move the tombs,  is the only weird thing I did these days.

[Kyna]

Just throwing in another idea here ...

You didn't happen to move an occupied lot to the lot bin, did you?

[J. M. Pescado]

Finally, if you really need to delete many sims, you can select the ones you want, and use the Deleter Tool on that selection. That will save you time and lots of dialog boxes

Except you should use DELETED 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO's Lot Debugger part first, to cleanse all the in-game resources.

[danicast]

Pescado: none of those duplicated sims appear at the debugger menu when I tried to use deleteme2 part 01 to clean them. They were not available. None of them had memories or relationships.

I just returned an old backup, cause it was too messed to fix it.

An no, kids I didn´t did any stupidity like move occupied lots to the bin, marry bad NPCs, ressurrect Mortimer Goth grandgrandfather or kill Ms Crumblebottom. I think it was the tombstone moving, because this happened after I try to move the tombs from one cemetery to another - and I didn´t used the inventory method, I used the move method, sending a sim to the lot to move, returning the sim to its home and then going at the new cemetery in build mode. All community lots. I truly believe is what broke my game.

I am going to try the same at Seasons hood just as an experiment to see if happens the same disaster there.

[Kyna]

An no, kids I didn´t did any stupidity like move occupied lots to the bin, marry bad NPCs, ressurrect Mortimer Goth grandgrandfather or kill Ms Crumblebottom.

Since you made the following patently false BBS-type claim in another thread, I assumed that your game knowledge might be at the BBS level, and therefore you might make idiotic mistakes.  (It's false because any offspring of Mary-Sue and Daniel will ALWAYS have black hair).

Lilith and Angela actually are Mary Sue and Daniel offsprings. I tested the genetic data plus facial geometry and gave to Mary Sue and Daniel 2 new offsprings, both resembles Angela and Lilith, one have black hair and the other one red hair.

My bad. 

BTW, I haven't been called a kid in over 30 years.

[J. M. Pescado]

Since you made the following patently false BBS-type claim in another thread, I assumed that your game knowledge might be at the BBS level, and therefore you might make idiotic mistakes.  (It's false because any offspring of Mary-Sue and Daniel will ALWAYS have black hair).

This is mostly an artifact of genetic inconsistencies left in the premades. There is some reason to believe this may have been produced by the SDNA bug prior to shipping and never caught.

[danicast]

This is mostly an artifact of genetic inconsistencies left in the premades. There is some reason to believe this may have been produced by the SDNA bug prior to shipping and never caught.

I thought that, thanks for confirm this info.

Kyna, did you tried to use genetic fix hack? I use since the beginning and have the most interesting results with my sims, including the fact that the black hair is not so dominant and that not all townies have red genetics. Is called hairtone_defaults.package and I got here at MATY at some thread.

And  Kyna, I didn´t lied, darling, I have the Dreams with natural daughters, one brunette and other one with red hair and with facial geometry that look like exactly like Angela and Lilith. I don´t know if EAxis changed anything in lately game versions, my main game is the brazilian Deluxe Version and I am not sure about differences from this one and the first game shipped. It seems to have differences because all the time I have different things at my game like houses that I don´t have or houses that I have but american game don´t have, I discovered lately that this is one of differences between game versions. You also should consider the idea to not pre-judge people as stupid just because you don´t know that person well.

[MrsSoares]

Does SimPe's sim browser show these duplicate sims as well? And does your Characters folder has files like N001_User00088.package and N001_User00088.1.package?

I have a character with the '.1' ending to their file name... what could be causing this? ( I only have one  ).

[gynarchy]

I have a character with the '.1' ending to their file name... what could be causing this? ( I only have one  ).

Is that character a nanny? I think the .1 file is normal for that NPC.

[MrsSoares]

I have a character with the '.1' ending to their file name... what could be causing this? ( I only have one  ).

Is that character a nanny? I think the .1 file is normal for that NPC.

Nope, it's the streaker...

[J. M. Pescado]

Duplicate "Ghost" Defaults are typically the result of installing inhabited lots to the neighborhood or package-ripping sims between neighborhoods. This is a Bad Thing. Check in the "UNLINKED" section in Deleted 2.