Bon Voyage Woohoo Memories

[KnowitallSim]

I find Romance Sims very easy to deal with as monogamous spouses.  Other than the big aspiration hit they take when they get engaged or married, it's very easy to keep their needs satisfied.  They want to boink the spouse, and that's a quick 3500 points every time.  7000 if they can do make-out first.  If you never let them fall in love with other Sims, it's much easier.

The hardest aspirations to keep platinum are knowledge and money.  They can go for long stretches with no easy wants to meet.

That's what I don't like about Knowledge. They're great when they're skilling and get so many points, but once they fulfill all their skills all they want to do is become a weirdo mutant and die several times:

1. BECOME AN WEREWOLF LOL
2. DIE AND COME BACK LOL
3. BE STRUCK BY LIGHTNING LOL
4. BE A ZOMBIE LOL

Luckily by then they're usually perma platinum for either maxing their skills or reaching the top of their career.

[ZephyrZodiac]

I've never got any up to that point - I usually either lose interest in a hood before it happens, or my HD gets fried!  And if that was happening and I still wanted to play the hood on rotation rather than just ignoring that family, I'd send them to the Renuyu-Senso-Orb while they're almost in red - a few days of Grilled Cheese (and you can always lose them a lot of skill points while they're not going to be upset by it) - and maybe they'll find something to occupy themselves.  They usually want to stargaze, which is an easy one to satisfy, and quite often they get woohoo wants, clean the birdcage wants and stuff like that.

[dizzy]

The hardest aspirations to keep platinum are knowledge and money.  They can go for long stretches with no easy wants to meet.

Knowledge and money are both tied to jobs. Money sims are easy to keep platinum if you pay attention to their job needs and advance them. Knowledge sims simply need the job to stay out of the way (or preferably not have a job at all).

[neriana]

Once my knowledge Sims have maxed-out points, all they want to do is woohoo. Or swim. Saved from death and such are usually there in the corner, but they don't interfere in any way. Fortune Sims aren't tough either, just keep them interacting with family members and that's what they'll want to do. If you ignore their big wants they'll start wanting plants and trees all the time, which is also very easy to fulfill by deleting an old plant and replacing it. With BV, of course, they insist you buy them a vacation home, but that fits them so I don't mind.

Now pleasure Sims suck. They can be on a date, which they want, and decide they'd rather do any little piddly thing rather than interact with their date. They don't care about other people at all, and I've found them much worse than any other aspiration in their self-centeredness. Countless puny wants, no power wants, they're the only Sims I have problems getting on constant woohoo chains. (I haven't had a grilled cheese Sim yet.) I hate them very much.

[dizzy]

Pleasure sims are the worst by far. Grilled Cheese sims are horribly easy to keep platinum (if you don't mind how overweight they are, that is).

[ZephyrZodiac]

I do it to them as a punishment for simstupidity!

[jsalemi]

I use Hooks randomizer to pick aspirations now, because when I used to do it based on 'personality', I found myself ending up with too much sameness in my game.  I did weight the aspirations so pleasure shouldn't show up often, but when it does, my attitude is "hey, sim, it sucks to be you."

[ZephyrZodiac]

I tend to go to opposites for some of my sims.   I have quite a few Pisces and Scorpio with Romance, a couple of Leo who are Knowledge, and two Sagis who HATE cleaning are Family. And sometimes I choose to give a sim with only 1 point for outgoing the Popularity aspiration, just to torment them with having to do lots of macro-socialising which of course they hate, they just want to sit and chat on the computer or send emails.

[squish]

Now pleasure Sims suck. They can be on a date, which they want, and decide they'd rather do any little piddly thing rather than interact with their date. They don't care about other people at all, and I've found them much worse than any other aspiration in their self-centeredness. Countless puny wants, no power wants, they're the only Sims I have problems getting on constant woohoo chains. (I haven't had a grilled cheese Sim yet.) I hate them very much.

I have the date problem with knowledge sims. At the start of the date they'll roll wants to chat and joke with the date, but after that they just want to skill. I can't remember what aspiration it was, but one of the dates kept wanting to just watch TV and swim.

[Emma]

I only ever keep Pleasure sims as is when their LTW is non-date related. Same with Romance sims, if they have the woohoo or be in love with 20 sims, they get re-rolled. I personally love the GC sims, they are so easy!

[ZephyrZodiac]

My sims very rarely get those LTWs nowadays, it's all "reach the top of the music career" or one of the Uni LTWs from JM.  (I have to reroll a lot of those, though, as my first generation families in this hood don't get upgraded.)

[jolrei]

I find Romance Sims very easy to deal with as monogamous spouses.  Other than the big aspiration hit they take when they get engaged or married, it's very easy to keep their needs satisfied.  They want to boink the spouse, and that's a quick 3500 points every time.  7000 if they can do make-out first.  If you never let them fall in love with other Sims, it's much easier.

The hardest aspirations to keep platinum are knowledge and money.  They can go for long stretches with no easy wants to meet.

With money sims, I find that the buy wants can be fulfilled reasonably well if I buy stuff for them and then re-sell, with little or no loss of aspiration points.  Consequently, I usually just ctrl-click on the want now and it's easy points (saves me the physical buy/delete actions with the same overall effect), if I don't want them to actually have guitars cluttering up the lawn.

My knowledge sims never seem to have much time for skilling, what with their family "baby" wants and their constant need for woohoo with their spouses.  People actually have knowledge sims that want to study, do they?  Haven't seen one of them since base game, pre-EP days.  My knowledge and family sims seem to be most interested in MOAR FIGHT than the others.  Must have a bunch of grouchy, scorpio family sims - should check that.

My family sims are the most annoying - I don't like to fulfill "have baby" wants for no reason (don't need that many new townies that are all related), and other than for babies, they never seem interested in the easy points (make out/woohoo).  They hang around in green/gold aspiration, while I get them to study or work out (often this fulfils a "gain a skill" want, but other times it's a matter of "if you're going to be really boring, at least stay out of the way").  They have higher skills than the knowledge sims (who are off in the hot tub with someone, after all).

I agree that a settled romance sim is pretty easy to manage, and usually they are better parents (more autonomous cuddling, playing, changing diapers, tucking in) than family sims in my game.

[ZephyrZodiac]

My romance sims are forever tucking kids in.  Partly, I think, it's because they tend to be in evening jobs, so they are still up at three or four in the morning, and their social has started to drop.  Shame, though, I use Smart Beds, and it's amazing how often they get kicked out with "NO BED FOR YOU!"

Another thing I've noticed, mainly, I think, since Seasons, is how the only parents who seem to get the "Help with homework" want are either Popularity or Romance.  Now, where are Knowledge when it comes to this - as jolrei says, they're off having it off in the hot tub!  Hope they freeze!

[behold_the_muse]

Or get struck by lightning! What knowledge sim wouldn't want that? And if they die, that means they can be either saved from death or resurrected as zombies. It's win-win.

[ZephyrZodiac]

I've used the smite option on the debugger to fulfil that want, only trouble is, they usually "have and accident" after which, you get the lightning want, you seem to get the "have an accident" fear!

[Liz]

Ugh, that stupid 'have an accident' fear. Personally I would consider myself Pleasure/Knowledge, and I'm happy to say that I spend very little time stressing over the possibility of whizzing myself. But isn't that just like a Knowledge sim - after being either nearly or "temporarily" killed by a bolt of lightning, would they fear being whomped again by the huge arrow of sky fire? Fear the cooking of their internal organs as their hair ignites and their eyeballs burst? Nah, they wanna do that crap again. But the idea that it might make them tinkle themselves? Aah, phear the tinkle!!

Knowledges are completely bugnuts 

[ZephyrZodiac]

Personally I would consider myself Pleasure/Knowledge, and I'm happy to say that I spend very little time stressing over the possibility of whizzing myself.

Wait till you get to my age, with a couple of gynae ops behind you!

[Doc Doofus]

ZephyrZodiac, about Smart Beds...  where are they?  I can't find them here or at Inteenimator and I can't find them with Google.  Do they go by a different name?

Reason I ask...  Whenever I invite a vacation simmie for a three day stay, they never go to sleep.  I wish there was some device that would allow me to assign a bed for them so they didn't try to watch TV for 72 hours with energy close to zero.

[Swiftgold]

ZephyrZodiac, about Smart Beds...  where are they?  I can't find them here or at Inteenimator and I can't find them with Google.  Do they go by a different name?

Reason I ask...  Whenever I invite a vacation simmie for a three day stay, they never go to sleep.  I wish there was some device that would allow me to assign a bed for them so they didn't try to watch TV for 72 hours with energy close to zero.

I don't know if Smart Beds fixes that (it is on the Inteen site but you have to be registered to see it as it's still beta for BV, at least last I checked), but Dizzy has a hack in the Peasantry section here that fixes the beds for visitors and the showers, etc. as well, I believe.

[Doc Doofus]

Just looked at Dizzy's thing (the no-privacy bed).  That doesn't sound like what I need.

What I would like is something that guest Sims feel comfortable using autonomously.  Unless they have a relationship with the bed from having slept in it before (like after woohoo), they never seem to get the idea to go to sleep in it.

An alternative idea...  I tried to think of ways to implement this, although it's a more complicated hack than I could try -- I would love it if somebody who is sleeping in a bed could click on another Sim and have the action "Come to bed and sleep."  Kind of like the way a Sim can "Relax" and then you click on another Sim to "Join."  But with sleep.

This would also be very handy when you just have a friend you invited for "Stay the night."  As it is, you have the annoying high-speed lights flashing on and off, toilets clogging, and guest Sims soaking in the hot tub till they turn into prunes while the family is trying to sleep.

[Swiftgold]

Oh, sorry, looks like there's more than one thread - the ones I meant are here - http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,9535.0.html - , beds-for-visitors and bath-shower-for-visitors.

[ZephyrZodiac]

I wonder whether the assignable beds at simlogical would work in BV?

You could, of course, just use debug mode to make the visitor controllable and then you should be able to direct them to sleep in any unowned bed in the house.

[Menaceman]

Wow, this thread branched out quite a fair bit from my original post. Getting back to that; would it be possible for somebody to create a hack that allows Sims to gain woohoo memories from a hammock and tent? It puts me off wanting to use them while they can't.

[jolrei]

Wow, this thread branched out quite a fair bit from my original post. Getting back to that; would it be possible for somebody to create a hack that allows Sims to gain woohoo memories from a hammock and tent? It puts me off wanting to use them while they can't.

I have not checked this and can not until later, but is it that they don't get any woohoo memory at all (i.e. any memory that might fulfill a part of a "woohoo 20 sims" LTW - would they get a "did woohoo with X" memory, for example?), or is it that they just don't get a "did woohoo in hammock" memory?

If the former, I can see a problem in that any woohoo in a hammock would need to be repeated then with the same sim woohoo partner for it to "count" for that LTW.  If however you just don't get the "woohoo in hammock" memory, it's less problematic, in my view.

[dizzy]

If the former, I can see a problem in that any woohoo in a hammock would need to be repeated then with the same sim woohoo partner for it to "count" for that LTW.  If however you just don't get the "woohoo in hammock" memory, it's less problematic, in my view.

I don't think "Woohoo in Hammock" exists in memory form. Only Wants/Fears are that specific.

As far as fixing goes, I guess that depends on whether you're willing to wait till one of us modders start using those objects in a serious way (and are therefore motivated to fix it).